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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 200 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, if the position of the country can change to such an insane degree by the results of a single election cycle then a lot of that goodwill that was given prior, should be examined.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 83 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

That's the sad fact of the matter. Trump and Vance and Elon and the rest of the administration are a fucking catastrophe, yes. But what is even worse than that, what is even more damaging for the long term viability of diplomacy, of international relations and governance, is that even when these clowns are gone, it can happen again.

Every time another country signs a trade deal, an alliance, a pact, an agreement of any sort with the US, even if the current leadership is absolutely incredible, that can change dramatically on a dime within 4 years. That has always been true, of course, but historically the precedent has been that new administrations are largely consistent in upholding international agreements. But a new precedent has been set, that agreements (aka "sheets" as the dumbass calls them) are worthless, that they can be torn up on a whim, that peace may require you to fluff the ego of a megalomaniac and kiss his feet, that you might have to placate idiocy and bravado and STILL have your economy rocked by asinine trade policies, that the threat of invasion and war could be a negotiation tactic for trade deals...

Countries are going to completely detach themselves from the US in all matters, and they absolutely should. We are going be turned into a North Korea-like state. Cut off from world trade and information, no diplomacy, just a looming threat to the whole world. Fuck me, this shit is bleak.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago

It won't go so far as being like North Korea. But there are countries out there that don't get good trade deals because of this exact problem. We will have to pay more for every trade deal we make for the next 30 years because other countries can't be sure we'll keep our end of it. It's just like getting a loan with a bad credit rating. You can still get the loan but the bank is going to demand more compensation because of the risk.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think that so many things are going to get fucked up between now and then that we would need a constitutional convention just reweave the threads of our society.

Congress can't legislate its way out of this mess anymore.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They could. They absolutely could. They could pass laws regulating the Supreme Court and pass laws specifically reserving powers to itself, including more congressional agencies. Like a congressional department of justice, a congressional law enforcement arm, and a law removing the president from control of military appointments and nominations. (Effectively giving him a force made by Congress, that he can command but cannot easily subvert)

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But isn't part of why we are here is because our Constitution is vague to some people, it's clauses without claws... What happens when the supreme court interprets the laws to be unconstitutional, whats to stop us from just doing this all again... People are not properly represented the electoral college, among many other things need to be fixed.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

If SCOTUS goes completely rogue and just declares Congress to be unconstitutional then all bets are off. And yeah that's scary. But within the rules there are still things that could be done.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

T-minus and counting...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It can happen again? This is "it" happening again. We suffered you guys having a first trump administration, we thought you learned, but you elected him even harder the second time.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

A very fair point.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

this is what putin wanted all along, isolate the us, so they dont intefere with RUSSIAS internal matters, such as with crimea, ukraine, russian satellite states.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

Every time another country signs a trade deal, an alliance, a pact, an agreement of any sort with the US, even if the current leadership is absolutely incredible, that can change dramatically on a dime within 4 years.

The "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde" effect.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

How much longer before the US loses the hegemony of the dollar as a reserve currency do you think?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 21 hours ago

Trump is definitely accelerating the process.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

I estimate around 2029-2030 we'll be using Rinminbi as the global reserve currency.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 18 hours ago

Would be a good thing

[–] ubergeek 2 points 21 hours ago

One can only hope sooner, rather than later.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Turns out who we pick to lead the country matters a lot