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Why does it feel that the evil sides globally are winning. Even evil people are winning. Why?

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[โ€“] petrescatraian@libranet.de 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

@Mee it just seems like that. In reality, everything in the world has been just someone's interests - because that's how the world was built. In fact, good and evil are just subjective terms. What may be good for you, it might be bad for somebody else. Your evil might be someone else's good and vice-versa.

I think you should think the things into more of what you care the most, what your values are, what is important for you overall. And then you'll see the bigger picture: people are just having different values than you, they think that the values you believe in are not theirs. And I am somewhat in the same situation as you - let me give you an example:

Among the values I care the most are democracy, personal freedoms, the ability to voice out (politely) your own opinion; you'd think I am a normal person, that no sane person would be thinking otherwise. Well, what if I told you, you're wrong! There was a poll last year in my country where 40% of the people said they would agree with my country returning under a dictatorship. Forty freaking percent!!! This is mind-boggling, right? That's what I also think.

What would be the solution to a problem like this be like? Well, you could join the crowd, that would be the most obvious, right? Be one with the majority, mindlessly agree on what they say, do what they do. But I bet you would never see your place in there. Instead, I think you should keep staying true to your own values and beliefs and look for people that share these. Speak to them, understand them yourself as well and who knows, maybe you can do something about it. ๐Ÿ˜

/my 2c

[โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

youโ€™ll see the bigger picture: people are just having different values than you

and those values being isolationism and dismantling democracy. two sides my ass

[โ€“] petrescatraian@libranet.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

@Skullgrid yes, they are. I don't contradict you. But in their opinion it really is better to be a dictatorship than a democracy.

The only solution is to just keep fighting for your values in every way possible, as I said, and show people that these are objectively better than what they crave for (or, if objectivity is not possible, subjectivity can help as well)

[โ€“] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Not everything is black and white. Sure, it's easier when you can label everyone an enemy or friend. That's why the extreme right acts in the manner of ingroup and outgroups. There are people who hate, people who are disillusioned, people who have been misguided, people who have disorders, people who prefer inaction, people who prefer reaction, people who prefer change, people who prefer no change, etc. Some share values with you others do not. To quote jcole, "fuck is the point of preaching your message to those that already believe what you believe" if you want to see change you need to start figuring out the underlying reasons those on the other side believe what they believe. That will allow you to figure out how to combat those illusions that lead them off track. The uncomfortable truth is that you are more like them then you think, just because you came from an environment which allowed you the privilege to see past the bullshit doesn't mean had you grown up in their environment you wouldn't be just as lost as them.