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EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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[–] randint@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Careful calling those regimes authoritarian. Hexbears like to attack this point by assigning a slightly different definition to authoritarian and then either (a) claim that all governments are "authoritarian" or (b) blame liberals for using this word to demonize socialist states. I once saw someone cite https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Authoritarianism to "prove" that those states are not authoritarian.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Not by "assigning a slightly different definition", just by applying the definition consistently, rather than using the us-foreign-policy standard.

[–] ThisMachineKillsFascists@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, doge-firefox, please tell me how consistent your beliefs are lmao

[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you just ad hominimem this poor LIB ?

I strawmanned ad hominined logical fallacied all over them.

[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's worse than just that. They argue that acknowledgement of Stalin's atrocities is Holocaust denial.

They are so scared and insecure they will lash out against anything that slightly challenges their beliefs. If they post sources it will be misreadings of fringe groups, or conveniently ignoring facts. Like how they believe tiananmen square wasn't a big deal because the China killed about 300 people a mile away. Or how Cuba is a utopia even though it's citizens chose to get run over by the coast guard instead of living there.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They argue that acknowledgement of Stalin's atrocities is Holocaust denial.

No, we argue that equating the bad things the soviet union did to the holocaust is holocaust trivialization, which is a take from mainstream liberal historians. Because the bad things the soviet union did were tiny compared to the holocaust and pretty tame compared to the other Allies.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As ever, actual Jewish Holocaust scholars agree with us

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Today is September 3, 2023 and Joseph Stalin saved the world from fascism.