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[–] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Sorry to say, but he's right. For AI to truly flourish in the West, it needs access to all previously human made information and media.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And as the rest of the conversation points out, if it's so important that for profit corporations can ignore copyright law, there is no justifying reason for the same laws to apply to any other content creators or consumers. Corporations are the reason copyright law is so draconic and stiffles innovation on established ideas, so to unironically say it makes their business model unsustainable is just rich.

[–] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, then we should see their want to change copyright in this way as a good thing. People complain when YouTubers get copyright struck even if their content is fair use or transformative of something else, but then suddenly become all about copyright when AI is mentioned.

The toothpaste is out of the tube. We can either develop it here and outpace our international and ideological competitors, or we can stifle ourselves and fall behind.

The future comes whether you want it to or not.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

They don't want to change the law, they just want an exemption for themselves. Rules for thee, not for me.

[–] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

I think the exemption would be necessary to keep up with other nations who aren't and will never be beholden to such laws.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Then it's a good thing they won't get it.

[–] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't think you've thought that out to its logical conclusion.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Allero 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

For a lot of things to truly flourish, copyright law has to be appended. But the exception is made specifically for AI because that's the thing billionaires can afford to develop while the rest cannot. This is a serious driver for inequality, and it is not normal some people can twist the law as they see fit.

[–] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I understand your frustration, but it's a necessary thing we must do. Because if it's not us, well then it will be someone else and that could literally be devastating.