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Because this is one of the only ways to attack a billionaire.
Pretty sure Luigi showed a more effective way
Difficult to get public sympathy if you hit the meat shield.
Specifically his ego, Musk is such a weakling that he sees ANY attack on Tesla as an attack on himself. That may be the point basically using the cars as proxy but the fact he legit gets so upset about it means it's working. Also as I need to remention Musk is such a fucking weak little bitch that he gets sad when folks burn something his company produces.
You’re not attacking a billionaire. You are attacking random private citizens.
Nah. The random private citizens get the insurance money. Premiums only go up for future Tesla owners.
Not everybody has insurance that covers vandalism. Most people have a deductible they need to pay before the insurance kick in. You are forcing people to take time out of their day to take the car to the shop for repairs and/or have to deal with long administrative tasks.
Premiums would not only go up for future Tesla owners.
Tesla owners should upgrade quickly.
True. However the main financial impact on current Tesla owners is the falling 2nd hand market price. Current owners are already losing out. Nothing can be done about that.
So sell the Telsa if that is a worry.
If only Teslas are vandalised then only that brands premiums are affected.
Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Tesla owners are people who could afford luxury cars, and NEW Tesla owners are people who are fine with Nazis, that is, exterminating a fuckton of helpless people. The first category, I'm sorry for but they can afford the insurance and if they were stupid enough not to get one, even now when it's obvious that they need it, it's their loss. The second category we are at war with, and if it ever goes full blown, idk if somebody told you how wars work, but I'll be killing them. Setting their car on fire is pretty tame compared to that.
Do people think wars consist of the parties sending strongly worded letters at each other?
Edit: and toppling a billionaire to prevent a full blown war that will kill a few million people worldwide is worth ANYTHING short of killing a few million people worldwide.
But you hurt the regular people way more.
If they are insured, no.
Insurance premiums will go up on teslas.
Then people will buy less tesla.
Then Musk will get margin called.
How about stop fucking burning people's cars in the first place?
The opposite of that statement is:-
How about stop fucking buying cars that are sold by a fascist and are being burned by anti-fascists
And it is an equally absurd proposition, because no-one should be burning another individual's personal property
No-one should be sending money to fascists.
Have you maybe considered the prospect that not all Tesla users are aware of Elon's fascist sentiments? Not everyone is as deeply entrenched in US politics as you y'know
Don't worry. Burning Teslas will help increase awareness.
Premiums going up will hurt regular people more than Musk. Hurting your fellow countrymen is such a lefty thing to do...
It will only hurt people who continue to own Teslas when they renew their insurance. They are part of the demographic supporting Musk, so fuckem.
Yeah conservatives were totally the largest market for EVs before Musk took the mask off, right? You people truly have not spent even a microsecond thinking this through.
What? This has nothing to do with politics of the consumer. YOU haven't thought this through.
The point is to damage Musk. If you continue to use his products (rather than sell or scrap) then you are part of the problems.
This is true for cars, websites, AI, satellite connectivity etc.
There's no one to sell to and scraping would only hurt the people. Next time try to use your brain.
This only hurts the people who own a tesla long term.
If they can't scrap or sell then an insurance write of is the best way to reclaim the value.
There's no way to reclaim anything, only lose money.
Tesla owners are already losing money in terms of resale value.
Money comes from an insurance write off or a second hand sale.
You don’t get to decide who uses what product and commit vandalism acts if they choose differently than you.
You would be attacking Musk. The users of the product get compensated. In fact, an insurance write off is a better financial option than the second hand market.
No, you wouldn’t be attacking Musk, you are attacking random people.
If you want to attack Musk, then target his own properties, not random people’s; not that I condone violence either way.
People are attacking Teslas future income stream.
That means they are attacking the current Tesla share price.
That means they are attacking Musk.
Normal people are compensated by insurance.
Future tesla owners will need to pay higher insurance premiums.
You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.
There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.
It is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.
If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.
And you can attack it even more by dissuading other people too.
There is a need if faster results are sought.
Then sell before it's vandalised.
This is how insurance works. Brands, models and even colors have different premiums.
It's not about the Tesla owner directly. It's about damaging Musk.
I should state that I am not going to damage anyone's private property, but current and future Tesla owners should be aware of the logic behind the attacks and act appropriately.
Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Maybe I've already sold my Tesla and I'm no longer supporting Musk in any shape or form. I might be changing the mind of a Tesla owner currently reading this.
Agreed. You are free to choose your own car along with it's associated running costs.
It is how insurance works. If causes of risks can be directly identified and measured then they can be directly priced. Any insurer not doing so will lose business.
They will have to drop the price until they find a buyer. That will affect new car sales and damage Musk further. See how this works?
Yep. For a low enough price, people may be willing to take the vandalism risk and also become a social pariah.
Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens, and only then you might change your mind. It doesn’t need to be about Tesla. It doesn’t even need to be about something you agree with.
Insurance prices will rise across the board, maybe more for Tesla, but also for other brands. That is just how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla. You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
Only if I buy a Tesla.
Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.
Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.
You obviously have no idea how insurance works.
Agreed.
Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively
I'm condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don't Vandalise Cars. Happy?
What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Yes, you are the villain here.
Holy shit. Did you just invoke Martin Niemöller in defense of a Nazi?
Unbelievable.
No. I invoked it to highlight the absurdity of this line of thinking: that it is somehow acceptable to damage the property of a worker who may be completely innocent.
No that’s the thing, it won’t only be when you buy a Tesla, it will be when you do whatever the mob terrorists deem wrong.
Insurance premiums will rise across the board. Ask two or three insurance companies if you don’t want to take my word for it. You have no idea how insurance businesses operate.
I’m glad you do not condone vandalism.
That's true for vigilantism in general, but Tesla vandalism is not really targeting the owners.
Nor is it a Mob because the attacks are decentralized, not organised.
Various people are deciding to perform criminal acts independently of each other.
Think of it more like extreme consumer activism than vandalism.
No. Only on Teslas.
OK. Just did so. They agree with me.
I do. The insurance business prices risks. Tesla vandalism only affects Teslas so only their premiums are affected. Any insurance company that tries to increase BMW insurance premiums because of Tesla risks will sell less insurance.
It is absolutely targeting the owners of the cars, otherwise don't vandalize the car.
Ok maybe mob is not the right word. You get the point.
It is vandalism. It is not consumer activism.
Insurance premiums will increase on all cars. I do not believe you just asked several insurance companies so quickly, it is regrettable you seem to be resorting to lying. Brand is not the only criteria for premium adjustments, location is another one and there are many more.
No. It's very similar to activism like Greenpeace or Just Stop Oil.
There are grades of vandalism. Personally I would only condone non permanent actions like flour&eggs or mud, but we see that arson exists at the extreme end of the scale.
No. Only Teslas world have an increased claim rate. Location and all other factors stay constant.
I do not believe you understand how insurance premiums are priced.
They don’t care. They are psychopaths,