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Users are unimpressed, eager to toss devices if test sticks.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What? This is reported to be happening on both sticks and tv versions of the rolu app.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's capitalism... When every CEO, Board Member, and shareholder wants a yacht, it's literally never enough. They even created a term to describe this inevitable deterioration of every company's product: enshittification.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not that they all want yachts, they make enough to each buy multiple yachts. It's just that nothing is ever enough. They don't know what success is, so they chase the undefined feeling until they die unfulfilled. Fucking living dead and a cancer on collective humanity

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

They want nesting yachts.

And once they have a nesting yacht, they want an even bigger yacht to nest that one in.

It's yachts all the way up.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Enshittification was coined for online services, which includes roku, but doesn't apply to all products.

Edit for the contrarians.

Enshittification, also known as crapification and platform decay, is the term used to describe the pattern in which online products and services decline in quality over time. Initially, vendors create high-quality offerings to attract users, then they degrade those offerings to better serve business customers, and finally degrade their services to users and business customers to maximize profits for shareholders.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Whether it was coined for all products or not, it's definitely applying to all products

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The same way drowning can be used to describe all types of suffocation, sure. As long as you absolutely ignore context, words can mean anything!

Making things worse, making them stop functioning, and making them overly restrictive are three different things.

Enshittification: making online products and services worse over time to serve business interests.

Planned obsolescence is making things stop working after a period of time, not just making them worse.

I don't know what the term is for HP printers not allowing third party ink to work or not letting a scanner in a combo printer/scanner work without ink but that also isn't something getting worse or stopping due to an arbitrarily short end of life. Those are overly restrictive design decisions, which is different than enshittification because the printer sucked from the day it was purchased.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

At this point in time, the term "enshittification" gets broadly applied to things being made progressively shittier, which is exactly what the term sounds like it says. Feel free to downvote me for saying that, but it's how people are using it, and it fits. No part of that word suggests anything about it being specifically about online products and services, so I don't really get the hostility towards people using it outside of that.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People use terms wrong all the time and ruin the nuance. Like calling all lying gaslighting.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for that downvote, I'll hang it on the wall with the others you've given me

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Stop gAsLiGhTiNg me!

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Oh course it does, what are you talking about? It applies to any product or service that can have its quality gradually and intentionally reduced in service of having its profit margin increase.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Originally coined it was meant to describe online software that started out useful and frequently free, then run into the ground when it came time to monetize it.

Go fucking read about it.

Enshittification, also known as crapification and platform decay, is the term used to describe the pattern in which online products and services decline in quality over time. Initially, vendors create high-quality offerings to attract users, then they degrade those offerings to better serve business customers, and finally degrade their services to users and business customers to maximize profits for shareholders.

Just because people atarted using it to mean 'stuff gets shitty' doesn't change the original meaning.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Enshittification was coined for online services, which includes roku, but doesn't apply to all products.

American businessmen: “Hold my beer and watch this”

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

hence, punishing those who didnt get their own streaming box (that isnt roku based), or has a tv that has roku built into it.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Owners of smart TVs and streaming sticks running Roku OS

The article clearly states

Owners of smart TVs and streaming sticks running Roku OS

It IS affecting tvs with roku built in.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hence its PUNISHING those who bought tvs that have it BUILT IN

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Then you are writing it to mean the opposite of what you intended.

Is this what you meant?

hence, punishing those who didnt get their own streaming box (that isnt roku based), AND those who have a tv that has roku built into it.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

hence why i went to clarify it on the second comment. I can agree that on the first attempt, it can be read off, but the second attempt clearly shows that roku tvs are affected regardless of how you read it

[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Not what your original comment said. And completely disingenuous too, since the Roku streaming box is one of the most popular ones