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I live in Minneapolis, where we regularly have winter days that reach -30°F. Not frequently that bad, but rarely a winter without one of those, and in the past 7 years I've lived here, we've had a couple of days where it's hit -50°. You don't survive that very long, even with a lot of good clothes; any exposed skin gets frostbite within minutes. It's not been as bad the past couple of years, what with global warming, but the winters here can well be described as "brutal." I can't imagine being homeless here, and if I was, and someone offered me a free trip to California, I'd take it. I grew up in Santa Cruz, and while LA is rather hotter than I prefer, I'd still rather face that than a Minnesota winter.
We have family in Dana Point. Everything around there is stupid expensive. I don't know about LA housing prices, but I haven't heard it's cheap. And you still have to maintain, if you own, especially in apartments, where your problems can trivially become your neighbors', too.
like I said. warm enough you won't freeze in the winter. because a ticket to california is cheaper than a shelter bed
that's the thing. you live there. so clearly a person can live there, but sending their surplus population to us, half compassionately, half throwing them away, is cheaper. it's cool. we can just be an externality, and at least nod at having a society so you don't have to. or at least we could til we got a san francisco guy in sacramento.
yeah rent is the problem. too many empty units while people are dying on the streets, and landlords are squeezing us all, trying to drive us to slavery.
edit: I'm saying there are people who will want to go home. who like the cold, or at least would rather deal with the cold than with the earthquakes and fires and heat stroke and being in a huge fucking city all the time.
I am not defending the practice; I was just saying I wouldn't be in a rush to come back. I love the cold, I like having seasons, but I would hate it here if I had to live in a drafty house and couldn't afford to heat it.
so you help them out with that. maybe provide insulation or some shit. I dunno. everything needs a little scaffolding to make it work. this seems like less than most stuff.