Every single time it has been implemented it has been a success; drastically improving the conditions of the vast majority of the lives of the people in those countries, establishing the world’s most proven successful education system, offering the only avenue for nations to escape imperialism, overthrow occupation, and develop up and out of poverty from under conditions of exploitation, eliminating unemployment, progressing science and culture more than ever before in their nation’s timeline of existence, and providing the most value-efficient and successful healthcare systems the world has ever seen.
Continuing to this day, Marxist-Leninist governments remain, in nearly every case, the absolute best government in their respective nation’s entire histories — especially for the poor and minorities — and are deeply missed by the majority of people that lived under communism (and no longer do), who also overwhelmingly regret it’s end. Communists saved the world from Hitler and fascism, took humans to space; they united and advanced China from a backwards, subservient nation to the position of the next world superpower. Communism made Cuba an international leader in medicine, who recently saved the much richer Italy during COVID-19, developed the DPRK into a cutting edge nuclear power, and liberated more of the planet from the most powerful empires in the world — more often and more successfully — than any other ideology or system, ever before and ever since.
Capitalism has violently forced its way into nearly every facet of every corner of the world, and socialist states are the only projects that have ever threatened to resist, repel, and overturn that domination, and it is only Marxist-Leninist projects that have ever neared the completion of that objective, thus far, in history. Communism works, and it works so effectively, all the time, so much so that the only way to get it to stop working is to have the most powerful empires in existence intervene in opposition to it, and even they can only boast mixed success. Communism has always worked, it will always work, and it continues to work right now, even as you continue to deny it.
This is sounding kinda like Trump
Ah yes, Trump, true supporter of communism. /s
Wtf??
I'm not on about what they're talking about. Just that the way of speaking is rather similar.
How? Trump loves capitalism and attacks Democrats as communists and socialists. What specific part?
"Our way is the best way. It's the only way. All other ways of doing things have failed. Look at all these amazing things."
Is that not Trump's thing?
That's...not what it said at all. Do you struggle with reading comprehension? You essentially are insulting every communist with "Uh yeah, I can't tell the difference between you guys and a bunch of lead-brained boomers ranting about Drumpf"
Fascism, Trump and conservative movements are a movement of reaction. They are reactionaries incited by gender ideology, bigotry and other movements that seek liberation that they view as jeopardy to their "sacrosanct" traditions. We know "our way" is successful because of example. China leading the world in over 20 academic journals, developing technology faster than we can keep up, eats more protein than the average westerner all while we get high on the own propaganda that we believe of them "evil ccp!!" type shit.
The Soviet Union had a higher home ownership rate than America, while on average had a higher caloric intake per worker. Vietnam defeated America in military engagement. Perhaps, if you are unwilling to actually observe closer of any differences between our doctrine and the average conservative you can ask yourself if China and Trump are the same. If that answer is yes, you are completely hopeless.
Am I being hostile? Do I sound like a dick? Maybe, but I wonder if you realize how much of a spit in the face your words were.
Not literally of course, that's also not quoting Trump. But that kind of attitude and tone is definitely his style, and this article is rather similar
Did you actually read the article to the end? (e.g. not just the few paragraphs pasted into the post here)
Yes, I didn't bother with the full text in the post actually
Well the section XIV. Communism is more complicated than this is pretty transparently not how a Trump type would talk, which is why I asked. He would never admit to such flaws and complexities.
Example:
e.g. the author themself is acknowledging that they aren't covering the whole story and are focusing on presenting a view you are unlikely to ever hear from western sources. It's common in general for communists to acknowledge shortcomings and failures; it's supposed to be part of the exchange between theory and practice, sometimes called "self criticism" or "self crit", so that issues can be worked through and overall better solutions can be found for the given context.
However, this is distinctly different from how western capitalist/imperialist nations "criticize" communism; they approach it from a dishonest lens where their "criticism" ranges from distortions to completely made up things that never happened. Furthermore, they do not approach it with the remotest sense of fairness in comparison. For example, when a capitalist nation suffers from a leader doing something wrong, it is often called (by that nation) "corruption" or some other similar word that is detached from the larger context of the political system (e.g. capitalism is not blamed - it is put on something else as the cause). But when capitalist nations levy criticisms at a socialist project run by communists, the slightest human misstep, real or imagined, is presented as an explicit, undeniable, and unforgivable failure of communism itself.
That part is definitely unlike Trump, yep.
Also, there's more western nations than the usa. There's a rather diverse set of opinions out there with their respective criticisms or lack thereof
Well yes, I'm generalizing somewhat. But anti-communist sentiment as a whole has a lot of similar themes that repeat; owed in part to the fact that violently anti-communist sentiment was one of the US's major exports in post WWII.
I often reference the US because it is what I have the most familiarity with, and also sometimes because its extensive power and influence in post WII is relevant to this kind of thing - not to be confused with the western chauvinist belief that it is the center of the universe and everything else must revolve around it.
To a lot of people in the western world that haven't considered the us a great place. Some have been calling is a near third world country for over a decade now. And unfortunately it is becoming less and less of a joke
Yeah, the US is in a pretty shitty state. Exporting industry to other countries, depending heavily on exploitation of other countries, depending heavily on prison labor and cheap migrant labor, violently crushing communist movements and just basic labor movements at every opportunity, having no real national identity beyond being settlers who genocided the natives - all of that and more has its consequences.
No, Trump loves fascism and fascism = communism.
Ah, the classic Feddit banger. Ownership of the means of production amongst the workers is not fascism. What is your definition of fascism? Ours is that it is a reaction to working class movements where petit-bourgiouse organize with lumpen to attack workers at the behest of a movement of reaction sponsored by the capitalists.
What is your theory? What is your logic and reasoning beyond absurd horse-shoe nonsense? Memes? What your grandpappy told ya? What? British public school?
I suppose it sort of fits the cold war american messaging?
Fascism=commmunism definitely fits the bill for cold-war and current American messaging when America is the fascist nation espousing that sort of philosophy. America is responsible for a majority of the worlds modern interventions and military actions. It has military bases in every corner of the world. It is the global hegemon that rules all.
Of course it would equate communism to it's own idea of fascism. To them their tyranny is the inability to exploit!
That's exactly what a fascist populist would say.
That's exactly what a politically illiterate dullard would say.
Well, don't be a politically illiterate dullard then.
I'm not, when you're clearly going "trump = fascism = communism"
You don't read any theory, nor have any political theory in knowledge other than "Drumpf bad"
Turns out, we agree. Just for different reasons. Still waiting on your explanation of fascism.
That one I've not heard before
Because it's nonsense. It's often used by neoliberals to justify their deranged system of war and poverty so that you can't look towards other alternatives.
Ye I don't quite get it either
You don't hear much in an echo chamber. Just like Trump voters. Same shit, different flags.
The echo chamber that people defederate from us from? Yeah, we sure do insulate ourselves despite welcoming everyone. We just laugh at dipshits like you.
"Muh horseshoe centrist everything I don't like is fascist drumpfism!"
Most be tough to be a degenerate...
And yet we still know more than you do.
Know what? Lol.
You would not have had to ask that if you actually spent more than five seconds in that link. Tons of information on modern history that would have benefitted you tremendously, as you sorely need it.
Since apparently all that you want to do is argue like an inebriate, I have to ask myself: should I ban you for being an unworthwhile distraction, or should I let you keep making an ass out of yourself? Hmm…
Tens of millions brutally killed is the only "benefits" of fascist regimes like communism.
this is just word salad, entirely nonsensical
The only salad is inside your brain.
2/10
must try harder
Go on.
Tens of millions of deaths is most certainly not a reason why anticommunists oppose communism. If that were the case, they’d oppose capitalism and anticommunism more generally, both of which have resulted in far more innocents dying than communism has.
Tough? I have a relationship of three years, a loving family, close friends, a kick-ass shotgun and an ideology that strives for the best in humanity, in those around us and for a better world. I'm also blessed with a healthy body, grateful as I am and understanding that not many around us are better off.
Is that degenerate to you? Or do you jerk yourself off at 4chan caricatures of everything that makes you mad? Truly, we must all be unemployed, anti-gun, blue-hair-dyed stonetoss caricatures. The funny thing is Anarcho's remark flew right over your head, haha. We don't think fascists are groveling subhumans that are mentally incompetent. The mental incompetency is a inherent trait to liberalism, seemingly.
We know exactly how dangerous they are. I am fully aware of the ones in my area and how they operate. We see how longingly they cling to their dying traditions and know that they are nothing more than a useful tool for the ruling class/capitalists to spawn movements of reaction that can be utilized against a growing working-class consciousness to crush it. That's what our theory has gotten us, actual scientifically-minded theory. Not NBC articles or reddit/4chan. We are fully aware of the traits, beliefs and ideologies they carry.
You don't, though. That is made abundantly clear; either you're "masking" which I am leaning towards or you're really that much of a clueless lib that you've started adopting right-ward thought as well. Makes sense with the current direction of American politics. By the way, the Soviets marched into Berlin first.
Muricans are just sick. How does the earth hold you at all?
You're on lemmygrad