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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 185 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Just one more reason to skip Windows 11…

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 83 points 4 days ago (3 children)

every passing day i feel increasingly gratified to have switched my previously win11 laptop to linux mint. aside from the sheer principle of microsoft being ass, i also fucking despise all of windows' AI bullshit. Fuck copilot for eternity.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just be sure to check support before buying any newish laptop. I really like my ASUS Duo Pro 2024, but ASUS adamantly refuses to lift a finger for proper Linux support for special features. Even the audio chipset which is standard somehow doesn't work with default kernels due to something they've done. Dual screen can be made to work with some scripting-fu, but the keyboard's multimedia keys just don't work at all.

Vote with your wallets and be noisy to those brands who don't support Linux well. Let them know if lack of Linux support was why you didn't buy.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago

Tbf Asus has been dogshit for at least a decade at this point.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is purely anecdotal but my last pc build was ASUS mobo and its absolute shit tier. I promised myself never to spend another dime on anything ASUS ever again.

I got it cause it had good reviews. Asus ROG strix. I should have stuck with my gut and gone MSI or Gigabyte.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MSI have dropped AMD as a GPU partner as of this generation (funnily enough - also the same generation they had proven to be their highest selling!), and their next generation of PSUs have dropped PCIe 6+2 for whatever the current HPV12 implementation is, so they’re in my shit-list too.

Gigabyte’s warranty support has been ass in the past (at least in my region), and their 3000-series GPUs were prone to overheating due to poor quality thermal pads. Oh, and their PSUs were sub-par and prone to exploding!

I think ASRock is the only ‘Tier 1’ brand (that I’m aware of) without massive controversies in the past few years?

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ASrock is ASUS. I don’t trust their quality. They are on the same level to me as Razer products. The lowest of the low in quality assurance.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remembered reading somewhere that ASRock started off as ASUS ‘budget’ brand - but had since been spun off into its own entity.

I thought that meant that they were sold off, and were a completely separate company now - but it looks I was wrong, they’re still a subsidiary. 🙁

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I think I’ll just go to RadioShack and solder my own board. Every company is shit these days. 😔

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

ASRock is my go-to now. Funnily enough they split off of ASUS a while ago. One continually got better, and the other worse.

Edit: I was wrong about that last part. I thought they had split off, but apparently they are a subsidiary. Well, either way, they seem better.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I tried setting up a dual boot Mint next to my Win 11 last night. Just so I can experiment with getting all the (replacement) programs of my Win 11 install to work on there… froze during install and was busy for hours getting my boot files for Win 11 back.

I’m not a technical genius or anything and now I’m scared to try again. I assume it’s way easier if I would just rip the bandaid off and do it in one go. Sadly too much relies on me still being able to use the computer close to the way I could before. Ah well. Another day, another chance to nuke the boot files.

[–] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dual boot with Windows is terrible because of how fastboot messes with the drive partitions. If you want to dual boot you will have to turn off Windows fastboot.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Thanks, I’ll look into that!

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Clone your drive first and then no matter what happens you have a quick click to restore. I've run dual boots on multiple distros for years and you learn a whole lot when things go wrong.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago

Good call. I have 2 hard dives and really thought that if I didn’t touch the win 11 drive it couldn’t possibly cause windows issues. Lol. Not making that mistake again.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What programs are causing you concern?

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I use a lot of adobe programs, like photoshop, illustrator and Lightroom. The standard MS office stuff and a bunch of games both via steam and the EA AppStore, some of which are windows only. Mind you, I know most if not all should work using wine (or similar) or have good alternatives. But I’d rather try first before nuking windows.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's all very reasonable. I certainly encourage caution.

I've never really voluntarily used Adobe products, nor the EA store, but I can tell you Linux support for gaming has come a long way, even for "Windows only" games. If you're unsure about a particular one, a great place to start is protondb.com. I don't know if they work with EA, but I've also heard good things about Lutris and Bubbles.

As you said, there are good alternatives, including Open or LibreOffice. You might benefit from reviewing alternativeto.net, which isn't specifically Linux focused but has a good chance of giving you options. For example:

https://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-lightroom/

Good luck with your experimentation!

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Windows 11 seemed to kick and scream relentlessly to make coexisting impossible. So I called its bluff and nuked its stupid ass. It refuses to play nice? OK; It never gets to play again. Fuck windows. I have a separate machine for windows if I really need it.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago

Good for you! Nuking windows is indeed the end goal. Dual boot for me is a proof of concept as a step on the way.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it’s just ridiculous. It doesn’t have to be this way! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Just one more reason to skip Windows…

FTFY

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I like seeing these posts, non issue now that im on linux, need more ppl to swap to help the piracy ecosystem

[–] Halliphax@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m waiting for things like HDR to work properly on Linux - once it’s as easy to mod and play games on Linux as it is Windows I’ll be making the jump.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You might want to take a low at https://bazzite.gg/

It's what I'm using for my desktop and I've been happily gaming ever since.

[–] Halliphax@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I’ll check that out thanks!

I started using Bazzite last year and it's fantastic, but modding seems to be a bit of a headache on it right now. I think Nexus Mod Manager is going to really help that once its got more than Stardew working though.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lots of the most best tools for desktop Linux are free and open source, so you really don't need to pirate desktop software. As far as multimedia goes, I generally find it much easier to sail the seas on Linux as opposed to Windows where everything felt hacky and difficult to isolate.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Oh you said multimedia, thats definitely easier if not using something like stremio which is the same level of ease

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lmao if you find an open source tool that competes with houdini, let me know. I found it extremely easy to pirate on windows, it takes a long time to find a crack on linux, if I do, it is usually out of date.

I have only pirated davinci resolve studio on linux and some blender addons, like 25% dont work, while I had a ton of pirated software on windows. (marvelousdesigner, embergen, houdini, davinci openfx addons like redgiant, borisfx syntheyes, touchdesigner, resolume etc.) A lot of stuff that adds up to 1000s of dollars a month for hobby stuff that I use sporadically.

Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

I understand that more conventional software is proprietary and not released natively for Linux, but it seems unfortunate yo me to let proprietary software stop you from making art. Ive got friends who produce music exclusively on Linux machines using qtractor, which is free and open source, so there's no need to crack it. I can't speak for the rest of the tools you mentioned but maybe it would just be worth exploring some of the Foss options to see what you can do with them? I haven't bothered cracking software since I made the move over to Linux because I just haven't found any piece of my workflows that actually depends on non-foss software. Turns out tools developed by the communities that use them rather than corporate entities typically turn out to be pretty good.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everything you're saying is more a reason to swap back to windows than stick with linux, you ltierally have less options with linux all of the linux options still work on windows

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Call it fewer options, I call it curated options. Yeah, I don't get to install every piece of software I could on windows (though that list is shrinking really fucking fast), but i also don't want to. I don't need to put energy into cracking adobe software so they can steal my licensing and farm my data to sell or train their AI on.

I don't want to use a drill that only works with screws that are officially approved for DeWalt drills, and I don't want to hack a DeWalt drill to make it work with other screws. I want a drill that fits whatever screw I want. People aren't switching to Linux because of the vast amount of software available for it, it's because it's the option that actually respects us as consumers.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My hardware refresh came up this year. I asked for a MacBook instead of a windows laptop for the first time in my long career. Linux isn’t an option at my org yet.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you have the money to drop on a Mac it’s definitely better, but there’s a bit more work to get games going. So if you play games elsewhere a Mac is to easy to recommend.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

It’s for work only, no gaming. I have a Steam Deck and a Linux desktop for gaming.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

My work laptop has W11. It's....fine. But I don't have to manage it, so... ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

I had W11 on my personal gaming PC for a total of 6 months before I got fed up with it. Running W10 until I make sure it'll run everything I need it to on Linux Mint (LMDE).