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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Forget money or the unhappiness caused by not being able to be truly independent of your parents.

We're very likely heading for a climate apocalypse. Having children is an act of selfishness.

[–] UltraFiestaMango@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You at least have to admit that they are a massive financial drain on people who do it just because it's 'normal' or some weird societal expectation. Even when you ignore the environmental considerations, having children is simply not a good idea for many people that do it.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Well that's not selfishness.

[–] Nyssa@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

I really hope this forum doesn't fall down that rabbit hole

[–] Harrison@ttrpg.network -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Climate change is not going to be literally the end of the world, or even human civilization. At the worst we'll see mass immigration to the global north and the centre equatorial band become more difficult to inhabit.
Farm yields will probably drop to some extent, and we might see a few wars, but we are fairly well equipped to survive.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I wish I was this naive and ignorant of literally every shred of credible scientific evidence. I'd be a lot happier.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias

My father was an environmental scientist, I grew up reading New Scientist. The science is far less optimistic that you want it to be.