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Iranians not Muslim? (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Cimbazarov@hexbear.net to c/history@hexbear.net

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So was talking with a Sunni friend, and he was telling me that Iranians are not muslim. He was also saying this is a common belief in the middle east.

I couldn't tell if this was some old prejudice thing, or I am just ignorant on the matter because from my understanding they are Shia muslims and have a religious head of state (even though maybe they are not following Islam in the same manner as other muslims would approve of).

When I asked him to clarify if he meant that Shia muslims are not true muslims or if he meant Iranians are not muslims it also got kind of confusing. He was talking about the history of the split over who would be the successor to Ali, and then something I've never heard before. He said a Jewish person created a new Shia'ism with "12 infallible imams", which honestly sounds like some antisemetic conspiracy but Im just not knowledgeable on the matter. From what I searched I dont see any origin from a Jewish person in Shia'ism.

Anyways, curious to know more about how Iran is viewed by the rest of the middle east and how they view themselves. Also hope I didn't say anything offensive.

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[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That was what I thought, though this person was from the middle east and kept telling me that it's true and I just don't know about it cause I'm not from there. I knew some Iranians and tbh never really talked about religion with them. Didn't know if I was stumbling upon some sectarianism I wasn't aware of or if it's the actual sentiment in the ME.

He's said some other sus stuff which is kind of disappointing me now because otherwise he's a cool dude sadness

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ok now i gotta know what other stuff he said.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shia's historically have oppressed Sunni's whenever they are in power.

Said the Assads were secterian. Hama massacre happened because the people there disagreed with one policy of Assad (don't know too much about this). Bashar is bad because he killed people who didn't declare him as their god. Blamed Yarmouk on Shia's

The Alawites being killed by the Syrian government right now are Assadists and criminals and started the conflict by killing civilians and refusing to hand in their weapons. Though he admits there were innocent civilians killed by the government's retaliation. Says western media/Israel is blowing it out of proportion.

Edit: now he's saying Khomeini was a western puppet what-the-hell

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

now he's saying Khomeini was a western puppet

some chuds here say that too that like it's all planned in secret and in fact the revolution was a plot to overthrow the shah to prevent iran becoming a superpower. it's all nonsense stuff.