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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 86 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Both are wrong. The correct way to write the date is YYYY-MM-DD. This is the only way to sort dates linearly in a list. ISO 8601.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm so glad you think we are all computers

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Our lives involve computers to a huge degree.

[–] Osan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

In Arabic we use DD/MM/YYYY but it actually gets written as YYYY/MM/DD since Arabic is written and read from right to left. When the year is dropped the confusing part is not what format is used here but rather does this website/software support RTL or is it just regular unformatted ASCII.

Edit: it's still not ISO 8601 and it doesn't solve the sorting issue

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should work if you have an RTL invert character before, right? (Not that you could name files with the slashes.)

[–] Osan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

RTL invert characters are just for rendering purposes it doesn't help with sorting also in older systems sometimes it was not supported.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But if you type it as "[RTL invert]yyyy/mm/dd" it is automatically sorted correctly in ltr parsing systems but still displayed correctly (assuming it is supported which it seems to be on most devices nowadays).

[–] Osan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You want it displayed as "yyyy/mm/dd" so it's actually "[RTL]dd/mm/yyyy"

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ah, I read the original comment backwards.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

It's frustrating that people are so bad at dates that ISO8601 lives rent-free in my head because I constantly have to tell people ;)

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hungarian is close enough

YYYY.MM.DD

[–] tatann@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can be OK with that

But not with having elected the Trump of EU

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Bro, trump is learning from Orbán if anything Trump is the US Orbán, fuck both of them too

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

♥️ this is what I decide to use at work. Dots are superior than dashes in my opinion because they prevent line breaks

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like dashes because they work better than dots or slashes for file names.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How so? At least dots haven't prevented me in the past (windows, Mac, android, various cloud storage).

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most OSes will let you do it but 2025.01.01.png could have issues compared to 2025-01-01.png. Plus I think it's a little clearer what the file type actually is.

Its just a little pedantic thing I've picked up after years of being a sysadmin. In my mind slashes (/) are reserved for directory delimitation and the period (.) is to separate the file name from the file type. I also have a little bit longer of a list of "reserved" characters for other reasons (%, #, and {`}`)

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And, when the context of the year is understood, you can just drop it. At least Japanese does this (and I'm pretty sure Chinese does as well).

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You shouldn't do that, because if you're writing it down it means you want to either refer to it later or have someone else refer to it later. The year changes and you're searching for that receipt or email... why set yourself up for failure?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you've never in your entire life written down a date dropping the year? No matter the context of the note? Even a shopping list? Even a party next weekend? That's a dedication to....archival science? that I've never seen before

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I try to do this, though I've only started relatively recently. I like my data.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

BRB -- I have to tell the country of Japan they're doing dates wrong /s.

For the things I'm thinking about, the year generally doesn't matter. I'm thinking advertisements or even things that say like 'Spring 2025 menu 2025年の春メヌー' or something which preserves context. A lot are also written on shop whiteboards and such which are changed fairly regularly. In my own notes, in anything I may care about that far into the future, I do write the full date in ISO-8601