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I recently bought the family a new vehicle from an official dealer, needed for their contractor job and as a family car. The fucking sleazy salesperson used my contact information from the purchase to call me during dinnertime and try to sell me on this side hustle pyramid scheme FiNaNCiaL SeRviCeS seminar.

First of all, I just gave you a big-ass commission from buying this big-ass car with $10k of MarKeT AdJusTmeNtS. Then you have the audacity to use my PII from your job to insult my intelligence by trying to pyramid scheme me?

This got me thinking on the prevalence of the modern American "scam economy" and how it signals the ongoing collapse of the capitalist world. Not only are workers paid a penny for every dollar of profit their labor generates, they must take second jobs just to make ends meet (generating even more stolen profit) while being wrung out by seemingly endless scams.

Legalized online gambling, pyramid schemes, timeshare offers, payday loans, rent-to-own stores, endless side hustles, thrift store flipping, dropshipping tutorials, MLMs, crypto rugpulls, identity theft, US health insurance, TurboTax scams, student loans. I mean the list just goes on endlessly. Not to mention the "zombie economy" of simultaneous stagnant wages, increasing inflation, and decreasing quality of goods.

It's exhausting even while knowing exactly how these all work, I genuinely can't imagine how disappointing this must be for the average worker who can't even tell between a scam and a savior. Is ignorance bliss?

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the topic - any relevant reading recommendations? Lived experiences? I am trying to find my footing with local PSL after a move, but my plan has always been to stay armed and hope my organization can fill the gap once the liberal "rule of law" fails. However, it does seem like imperial society is moving more towards technofeudalism enforced by advanced surveillance and extreme violence that will maintain that veneer of liberal rule of law thus preventing total collapse and wide-scale revolution.

Will the workers truly only wake up when the mass starvation starts? Can the miracle of the early CPC's struggle for survival be replicated in modern times?

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[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

100% agreed. I've worked with plenty of good folks from the corporate sales division at work, but car salespeople (that don't quit...) are irredeemable psychopaths.

Leaving details out to preserve anonymity, there are ways to get new Japanese cars from dealers with no markup here and I am very financially literate, but there was just no other option in this particular situation. Believe me I gave them a "reeducation" for blowing that. Mistakes are a luxury for the wealthy.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a Toyota fanboy, I'm totally searching this in a few years when my current Toyota fails.

[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seems like it depends heavily on the dealer and how far you're willing to drive to make the buy - it's not some secret technique I'm gatekeeping or anything, it would just legit dox my city to share hahah. Big Toyota fan as well, but I'm definitely running my current car into the ground first.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm on my third Avalon and I had to fly to get it, and drive 20+hrs home. I got it for 5 grand during lockdown. I'm curious what Yoda's you've got/had?

[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ahh those are great. Lockdown was really an interesting time for the car buyer.

I only had an '04 Corolla way back when! Currently on an '18 Hyundai sedan but let's just say: I'm sure my next one will be a Toyota once this thing starts breaking down too much. No idea what will be out by then, but those CHRs, Corolla Crosses and Prius Primes look incredible.

One pro is that was before they started stuffing the cars with tech so any mechanic can fix it, and the small third party shops that barely speak English can keep these things going forever.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Funny you bring up Hyundai! Right before I got the last year model Avalon, I was driving a $500 '05 Senata. Got it at 160k miles and gave it to my cousin at 300k with the same second pair of keys. Only left me stranded one time in a Walmart parking lot. But with only a request for a cardboard box to lay on, and $10 worth of tools, I got her fixed up.

I heard newer models are less robust though, which makes me sad.