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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is entirely meant to kickstart another conversation over fetal personhood.

A couple of people have said that they don't know what kind of pandora's box they'd be opening, as it would also allow things like pregnant women claiming their fetuses as dependents, along with other tax breaks. It means women being able to collect child support, etc.

And the GOP are going to say this too. They're going to tell you just how much you can expect to get if you continue the pregnancy. They're going to package this as their "devotion to doing whatever it takes to support women and their children as part of the right to life movement."

"Following through with pregnancy will entitle women to thousands of dollars in additonal tax breaks by being able to claim additional exemptions in their tax returns for the year they're pregnant, which can be used to support women who otherwise would not have had the funds available to buy everything she needs at this most critical time, leading to difficult choices that could have been avoided."

And they will hammer this home. Until they get fetal personhood established and abortion banned. The minute they get their way, watch how quickly these tax breaks get rescinded in the next GOP-controlled budget. Watch how quickly they try to sunset these tax breaks as quickly as possible by burying it on page 47, paragraph 4 of a routine must-pass bill that would otherwise have gotten no attention. Watch how quickly the next "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act" is almost entirely funded by cutting off these benefits. Heck, half of me believes that not only would they rescind the tax breaks, they'll somehow make pregnant women pay it back retroactively.

If it's not this specific topic, it'll be something. The overall game plan is this:

  • Make whatever promises are necessary in order to get a national abortion bill passed without too much public blowback.
  • Get a national abortion bill passed.
  • Rescind or ignore the promises.
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago

Sounds about right.

They'll support women and fetuses right up until birth then it's "I got mine fuck you" as they cackle about poor kids suffering.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Oh but we'll have the imaginary issue of "conception queens" who get pregnant in December and abort in January just to get tax breaks

They'll envision it as this widescale issue that doesn't actually exist