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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.

Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.

Unrelated…..

The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.

What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.

This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.

And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.

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[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Just run a search for "genocide Joe" and look for the people denying that Trump being buddies with Netanyahu would make things worse, claiming Trump wants peace (all he wants is power and PR)

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org -4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

if it was so easy, you would do it and support your own claims. this is not evidence, it's hand waving.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Then prove I'm making it up, if it's so easy

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I can't possibly prove something doesn't exist. You're claiming there is evidence that something does exist, it's on you to provide that evidence.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not the only person here who remember that crowd.

What should I prove next, 1+1=2?

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 11 hours ago

You're a mod and didn't ever see it?

I can dig up dozens of threads on bluesky (didn't go into a lot of conversations about it here or elsewhere), but you can see in this very thread there's other people who encountered them.

The attitude is also remarkably unprofessional with the mod flag visible

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
  1. This is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask; I agree with the person you're talking with, factually, but I have no idea why they are treating it as unreasonable to say "what is the evidence for this thing you are claiming." They seem to be taking the "do your own research" approach with it, which is bullshit.
  2. I think moderating a heated conversation you are a part of is also bullshit. You can't be arguing with someone, tell them to do something in the argument, and then say "failure to follow mod direction" or whatever when they don't. Or, you can, but it's bullshit.
  3. I for myself am happy to provide the examples you're asking for, because it happened all the time. Below:
  • https://ponder.cat/comment/2719790 - "The genocide was just as bad under Democrats, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. In that sense, it’s better that Trump won, because at least liberals acknowledge what’s happening when he does it, rather than downplaying and denying it."
  • https://ponder.cat/comment/2695840 - "[Trump] did get the ceasefire done that Joe Biden claimed to have been working on for years. Donald Trump claims to not give a shit about the Palestinians yet got the ceasefire done. Joe “Proud Zionist” Biden claims to care about the plight of the Palestinians yet did less to end their suffering. The point is that Democratic lip service is often worse or equivalent to the Republicans’ more honest cruelty, especially in foreign policy"
  • https://ponder.cat/post/2203126/2508582 - "Voting for Democrats would not have lead to fewer Gazan lives lost, because the Democrats don’t give a fuck about Gazan lives. Biden was already giving them all the weapons they needed, and Harris made no indication she was going to change course. Harris would have enabled the genocide same as Trump."

That's with a simple text search; I found 503 results and picked those comments out of the first 21 of them. There were quite a lot. Some from pretty high-profile people, it wasn't all just random idiots. But yes it was an extremely common point of view.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think moderating a heated conversation you are a part of is also bullshit. You can’t be arguing with someone, tell them to do something in the argument, and then say “failure to follow mod direction” or whatever when they don’t. Or, you can, but it’s bullshit.

  1. Not sure which thread you were reading but I wasn't arguing with the individual in that thread at all afaik, NSXRN was.
  2. The onus is on the person making the claim to provide evidence, but all they did was deflect the question and hand wave. When called out, they deflected again.
  3. When I stepped in to ask them to "put up or shut up" they deflected yet again so I removed their reply.

As for the rest of your comments NSRXNs reply seems to have covered it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah, like I say I very much agree with you about making an argument and then not backing it up being bullshit. I actually would really like if that was an across-the-board rule that drew mod action when people violated it. It's way too accepted on Lemmy to just spout off whatever's in your head and then wander away or get offended if someone asks you to back it up. I'm just saying that deciding that rule as a one-off and applying it to a person on the opposite side of an active argument you and NSXRN are in (whether or not your comments were close enough to this person's comments to be "in that thread" is, to me, not relevant) is pretty authoritarian of you.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ok I suppose maybe you are right in this case.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sweet! Yes very occasionally and completely by accident it does happen.

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The comment that started this accusation said:

Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…

which prompted the response:

Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …

and a furth explanation:

There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse

to which i said:

you’re making that up.

and the rest of the thread has been bickering about whether, in fact, they made that up. the accusation is that, since the election, the people opposed to genocide who wanted to exert electoral pressure, who were also people who were pretending only democrats could have responsibility AND that trump could not be worse, have since disappeared. i know that's a lot of commas. lets make this a bit clearer:

the accusation is that

there are people who

  • (a)oppose genocide
  • (b)wanted to exert electoral pressure on the democrats
  • (c)were pretending only democrats could have responsibility
  • (d)believed that trump could not be worse

and that those people

  • (e)disappeared after the election.

what you provided was evidence that, in fact, those people don't exist, and to the extent that people who met criteria a-c may have existed (it's still not clear they held this belief prior to the election), they did not, also fulfill criteria (e).

so despite your aptitude for verbosity and markdown syntax, your comment is, also, not evidence.

edit: i made a few syntactic edits to this, but as i'm now reading it for the 12th time or so, i don't actually think we have evidence of anyone fulfilling criteria c in addition to a and b.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

The comment that started this accusation said:

That's nice. I was responding to a very particular exchange, different from the one you picked out to look at, which said:

There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse

you’re making that up.

Nobody is making up the crowd that pretended only Democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse. Some of them are still around, (and still! saying the same thing for some fucked-up reason, as per my examples) some are gone. I gave some examples of that crowd.

I don't really feel like a protracted exchange where you move goalposts around and introduce totally random qualifications like "in order to exert electoral pressure on the Democrats" when in fact the lack of that is a big part of why I object strongly to the whole operation. Where, something like the "uncommitted" movement is at least organized in a fashion where it seems like it could produce an improvement, by putting pressure on the Democrats, so that sounds fine. Just not voting for Democrats and hoping they'll figure it out and move to the left seems pretty much guaranteed to give us something along the lines of the catastrophe that happened. Which is why I am opposed to it.

Anyway feel free to tell the people in Gaza or immigrants in the US or any international student or Ukrainian or and so on about your theory and how pleased you are, now that it's succeeded, and aren't they proud of you.

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 7 hours ago

I don’t really feel like a protracted exchange where you move goalposts around

this accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 7 hours ago

your theory and how pleased you are, now that it’s succeeded

you're putting word in my mouth.

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Nobody is making up the crowd that pretended only Democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse.

yes they are, and if that weren't the case you would have been able to show it

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org -2 points 14 hours ago

then it should be easy to find your evidence.