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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago (30 children)

"Both sides bad" is why we have Trump.

Democrats took America from gays are illegal, to full gay rights with marriage. Environmental laws have been all Democrats. If Democrats did nothing, Trump wouldn't have signed 76 executive orders reversing Biden orders on his very first day.

[–] Nikophos@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/democrat-republican-elect-primary-1.6497911

It's apparently all part of a Democratic strategy aiming to help those seen as extremist Republican candidates to secure their Republican party's nomination. (Which Mastriano did win.)

The hope for Democrats is that those extreme Republican candidates would be much easier for Democrats to beat in the November general election. But the strategy has raised some concerns about effectiveness and whether it could have unintended consequences.

https://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/

The memo named Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz, and Ben Carson as wanted candidates. “We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to them seriously,” the memo noted.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Things have been getting worse my entire life regardless of who has been in charge. It gets worse more slowly under the dems, but it still gets worse.

Why is it too much to ask for things to get even a little better?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

It gets worse more slowly under the dems, but it still gets worse.

Gay marriage? DEI? Pacific Protected waters? Arctic protected from drilling? It was getting better until Republicans were elected to undo it all. The Rachet Meme is a version "both sides bad" which is what helped Republicans win.

I 100% agree with you but I'd also like to point out that the EPA was made by nixon in the 70s. theyve done some good stuff too, just less

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 75 points 1 week ago (15 children)

No, the DNC is why we have trump. It’s on them.

Obama wasn’t perfect at all, but his platform was at least change and progress. While he was originally against gay marriage he did listen to the public and change for re-election. If the DNC listened to the public instead of fighting against progress that would be great. But like… Biden was the throw away to conservatives for Obama’s VP to “balance out” Obama being progressive….And now he was their best idea on what to do for a better future? It’s pathetic, and demonstrates the above.

No one is trying to say Biden was worse than trump. They’re saying the DNC is what even allowed trump to exist, by being greedy fucks who care more about their handlers than the American people and running the worst candidates they can. “Nothing will fundamentally change” is the dumbest, most “fuck you don’t bother to vote for me” fucking campaign I’ve ever heard.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (52 children)

Democrats took America from gays are illegal, to full gay rights with marriage.

Gay marriage was legalized at the federal level by a conservative-leaning Supreme Court. The only time a Democrat acted on same-sex marriage nationally was when Bill Clinton banned it by signing DOMA in 1996.

Environmental laws have been all Democrats.

Nixon created the EPA.

If Democrats did nothing, Trump wouldn't have signed 76 executive orders reversing Biden orders on his very first day.

If Democrats passed legislation, Biden's achievements couldn't be undone through executive order.

The parties are not the same, especially now that one of them is openly fascist, but you're giving Democrats credit for things they did not do. Also, the meme doesn't say they're the same, it describes the rachet effect, which is an accurate representation of how Democrats behaved on multiple issues. Look at how their economic policies have changed over the last 30 years, or how their views on immigration policies have changed since Trump was elected.

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