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[–] NovaOG@lemm.ee 11 points 37 minutes ago

I try to remind people that we have no "Leftist" party or even a "Centre left" party anymore. We have Center right and far right now.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 5 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

The Democrats suck but there's a huge difference between voting for boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Don't make me tap the chart.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 4 points 28 minutes ago

What's the huge difference in outcome? Why is voting the only type of action being considered?

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 49 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

Before you reply to me directly please understand:

  1. The US overthrew democracy in the country I am from
  2. The US installed a fascist king with secret police that terrorized my family
  3. Once kicked out the US supported a dictator in the neighboring country where the other half of my family lived
  4. The US funded both sides of a war between my country and the neighboring one that led to mass civilian deaths, one side directly by giving a dictator weapons and cash and the other side clandestinely thru laundering money by selling drugs in Latin America
  5. Once they lost that war turned on the dictator in the neighboring country and invented reasons to illegally invade. Twice
  6. Toppled the regime and left a power vacuum that consumed all my family that lived there for literally hundreds of years.
  7. Created material conditions in the country my family is from that forced them to leave or die

You Americans are not the good guys, your country and government is evil to its core.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 3 points 17 minutes ago

Have you considered being born to a wealthy white family in the West? I hear it's much easier

[–] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I would try to guess your country but there are too many that the US has done this to

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago

My guess is iran

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you're a foreigner, so your life doesn't' matter.

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago

worse, they'll say that he's privileged for not being a gay in trump's america, since that's perhaps the worst thing that could happen to a human being.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 hours ago

As said by a wise man, a silent majority does not exist in policy.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Democrats spent their entire life understanding what FPTP is and their entire political understanding hangs on explaining it to other people any time Democrats get criticized.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 2 points 41 minutes ago (2 children)

I mean, I want to replace FPTP though. Any kind of proportional system is ideal, but Sequential Proportional Approval Voting is ideal.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Democrats hugely benefit from FPTP so they will never advocate for replacing it.

It is a catch22 where the only answer is to call the Democrats bluff and vote for other parties until the Democrats cave to voter demands.

Democrats also refuse to acknowledge that not voting for them is the only way left to pressure them.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 1 points 21 minutes ago

Hey, that system is pretty cool. I like it. You should keep in mind, though, the social relations of production that undergird political reality are much more impactful over the outcome of elections or any other political process, than which specific voting system we have. If the world switched to proportional approval voting tomorrow, it wouldn't change the relationship between the international imperialist institutions, the workers of the imperial core, and the workers of the periphery. >80% of productive labor would still be done in the periphery, imperialism would still just find ways to quiet dissent and destroy its opponents.

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