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[โ€“] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We are not. It's just a survey and not a vote result.

My guy. You are not seeing the bigger picture.

[โ€“] Stovetop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One predicates the other, though.

Clearly Germany is not doing enough to put a stop to the rising conservatism movement, and the next election might not end as favorably as a result.

[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The last election was so recent, the new government hasn't even started working yet.
This poll is utterly useless, cause the next election it asks about will be in 4 years.

Yea, the far right nazis have 3.7 more years to boost those numbers even more with their rethoric and propaganda. Great

[โ€“] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But how much longer does AfD's popularity line keep going up before the government does start working? Do we even expect the current government to be meaningfully different from the previous in that regard?

4 years comes quicker than you think.

[โ€“] OKRainbowKid@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

I am expecting the incoming government to do a much worse job than the outgoing one, regarding actually addressing the underlying structural problems that led us here.

[โ€“] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The last election shouldn't even have happened. It only happened because the previous government was unwilling and too incompetent to do their fucking job to the end of their term. And I don't see how the new one will be in any way more competent and/or willing. All they want is to line their pockets.

[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The previous government failed because the FDP actively worked against it despite being part of it.
The current government doesn't include the FDP.

[โ€“] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The current government includes the SPD, which willingly entered into a coalition with the FDP. The CDU is following the same agenda as the FDP. History is repeating itself, just as in the Weimar Republic, none of the established parties are willing and/or able to solve problems that actually matter for the population, creating a giant void in the political landscape that the Nazi scum is happily occupying by simply blaming a convenient scapegoat for the problems and playing the political establishment like a fiddle.

[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you ask the population what problems actually matter to them right now, a large part of them will answer "close the borders to protect us from crime".
Which would mean leaving the EU despite the fact that the crime rate is lower than it was in the past.
Or they'll say "make gas cheaper". Which the government can't do without bankrupting itself and would cause loads of other problems.

Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc...
That party got 8% of the vote.

How do you solve this in a democracy?

[โ€“] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This mindset is manufactured by the Nazi scum turning a cost of living and inequality crisis into an immigration and crime crisis in order to present foreigners as an easy scapegoat. The established parties and the media jumped the bandwagon and joined in on their lies.

Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etcโ€ฆ

How do you solve this in a democracy?

A democracy that actually wants to solve the problem of power hungry unscrupulous politicians abusing the system by blatantly lying needs to punish lies, and regulate the media.

These days the media are largely only parrotting everything that is said to them rather than doing their job as journalists and exposing lies and falsehoods as what they are. Instead they are hiding behind false balance and will parrot some insane crackpot's made up lies to counter any fact they might accidentally have to report.

[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

punish lies, and regulate the media.

So to save democracy, we need to abolish 2 of its most important characteristics - freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

No freedom is absolute. If you can keep abusing your rights with no repercussions, those rights are worthless.

[โ€“] Ooops@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Clearly Germany is not doing enough to put a stop to the rising conservatism movement

What do you mean by they are not doing enough? They are basically doing nothing else to the point of not actually doing any constructive work anymore.

Every single party is heavily competing about who can move faster to the far-right and parrot nazi narratives louder to get those voters back. And if it totally surprisingly doesn't work (who would have thought that alienating some voters while telling the others that nazi propaganda lies are totally okay as long as they are the ones telling them is the perfect campaign... for the AfD) they double down again and again. ๐Ÿคก ๐Ÿคฎ