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Cyberpunk

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What is Cyberpunk?

Cyberpunk is a science-fiction sub-genre dealing with the integration of society and technology in dystopian settings. Often referred to as “low-life and high tech,” Cyberpunk stories deal with outsiders (punks) who fight against the oppressors in society (usually mega corporations that control everything) via technological means (cyber). If the punks aren’t actively fighting against a megacorp, they’re still dealing with living in a world completely dependent on high technology.

Cyberpunk characteristics include:

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cyberpunk's also a manual, but to break the megacorp machinations, not comply with'em.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"but all the corporate espionage will be sooo cool"

the problem is william gibson's seedy underworld does genuinely seem cool. but i take that to mean cool people will always do cool shit. punks will always resist authorities. but the technoligarchs had a different takeaway: "we need to bring about this nerdy tech future because it's cool"

they don't notice nuance, subtlety, or context

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This isn't just limited to the game. Tech Bros seem either incapable of interpreting the nuance, subtlety, or context and any of the cautionary tales of science fiction.

My favorite example is how Elon Musk often cites Isaac Asimov's Foundation series as a major influence on his worldview, especially regarding the way in which he uses his wealth to promote his own beliefs about what the long-term goals for humanity should be. It seem like he hasn't actually finished the series, or at the very least, didn't understand its message. While the first 2 books set up the idea of saving civilization through authoritarian rational planning and scientific foresight, the rest of the series explicitly challenges and ultimately rejects the idea that one person (or system, for that matter) should guide humanity’s destiny.

The series does not end with an endorsement of Elon's belief in central planning or empire-building, but with a clear message that we should move toward a more collective society. It directly contrasts and critiques the manipulative tactics of the first two books. The final conclusion couldn't be a more clear rebuke of top-down technocracy and the idea that a singular genius can or should steer the course of civilization.

When Musk points to Foundation as a model for how he wants to guide humanity, he is missing the point (based on his actions, at least). The series ends with the realization that societies dominated by control and order are ultimately limited and dangerous. The series isn't meant to be a roadmap for becoming a galactic engineer of society (building the torment Nexus), but a cautionary tale warning humanity against one person or system guiding all of humanity.

If Musk stopped reading after the first or second book, then his actions make sense. However, if he DID finish the series and STILL walked away with his shitty takeaway, then it’s hard not to believe that he didn't get it or didn't read the other books. I feel that, just as with his actions surrounding The Age of Exile, he’s more interested in promoting his own brand of genius than the burden of actually understanding the philosophical message of the series.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

He cherry-picks the Nazi stuff even in Asimov.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think Musk reads books. I think he's stupid. Intellectually deficient. Maybe he read a couple pages, then got bored and read half the wikipedia summary.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

dude claims douglas adams as his biggest influence. douglas adams would hate the world's richest dickhead

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Dude also claimed that Adams coined the term grok, which was coined in 1961 by Robert Heinlein when Douglas Adams was 9 years old.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe they think Cyberpunk refers to Cyberpunk 2077 rather than the genre as a whole

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

oooooooh. that would make sense probably

See also: "I liked Star Trek before it was woke."

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's why I subscribe to !aboringdystopia@lemmy.world That is the message that should sent about the drift we are experiencing.