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Its the 14th century and you've had no time to prepare, after you're done reading this post you are snapped. What do you do?

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well, staying in the same location? I'm in the US, so... I'd probably try to get writing invented. To my knowledge, besides some of the Central American empires, there's no evidence or even claim of there having been any kind of writing or system for making information durable. I know there's a lot of clay here, I'm pretty sure we could bake clay tablets to store down information. There's also tule reeds here that were already being extensively used, and those could probably be made into a kind of paper as well. As to whether the people would accept that, I have no fucking idea at all; what we know of the California tribes suggests they were always semi-nomadic, but that's all very well into the post-contact period and much of what we know was written down by the Spanish while being the biggest bastards they possibly could to the locals. I dunno how useful record-keeping would be to a nomadic people. It's also entirely possible the people would be like "uh, yeah, we know how to write, dummy", and it was just lost in the multiple waves of pandemics.

I think probably something that -might- be achievable is figuring out glass. I'm mostly sure that if the native Americans had glass, we would have seen some sign of it in the archeological record by now. I'm sure some smarty pants is going to come along and tell me "you can't just throw sand in a kiln and make glass, you need a special kind of sand blah blah blah and here's 99 reasons why that won't work". Yeah, you're probably right, but I don't know any better, so I'd still definitely try. I also remember reading that clear glass was a thing figured out near Venice when they started adding grass ash or some shit to the sand, so I'd definitely experiment with that, too. Glass is just dead useful -and- pretty, so I'm fairly confident I'd get some acceptance that way.

I would say metal smithing, but the only metal deposits nearby that I know of are mercury and gold. You can't make nails and tools out of mercury and gold.

Also, maybe water wheels? To my knowledge, we have no record of native Americans using water wheels for work (I.e. grinding corn or acorns into flour). I think if I managed to put a basic water wheel together, I'd be pretty popular.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

there's no evidence or even claim of there having been any kind of writing or system for making information durable

sigh it's called oral history and it was working just fine before the settlers showed up

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes, 100%, I don't at all want to give the idea that no history was ever remembered, and I don't want to sound like I'm shitting on oral history either. I just... really wish someone had written some stuff down. There's so much that's lost to time because of the pandemics that swept the post contact world and all of colonization that followed.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 minutes ago

yes a lot of cultures went extinct but not because they didn't have writing. it's because there was no one left to pass on the knowledge.

if we think about it from the perspective of contemporary indigenous people, they know how to read and write but that's a side effect of boarding schools. and it's led to more intensive cultural extinction because of forced assimilation