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It's not reasonable to blame people for voting for change when the Democrats did nothing meaningful about poverty for four years and then blamed poor people for being angry about it. The 2024 election was simple cause-and-effect.
That's what partisan Democrats don't get. We were already at 'things got worse', and it happened under Biden.
It is incredibly stupid to value "change" on its own as a key metric. Some changes are good, some are bad, and some are mixed.
It's like saying "I want to go fast" without specifying a direction. You want to get from NYC to Boston and on foot is too slow? Get on this jet, it's a change of speed. Except the jet is going to LA. But it was a change!
In an insanely propagandistic Media environment (both sides: notice the New Tork Times coverage of the Gaza Genocide) you're going to get lots of people who aren't above average educated types with high political awareness trying to gut feel their way into "who are the ones who lie the least" by going for the kind of discourse that sounds the least like the style of propaganda of the last couple of decades, and right now the "not the usual liar politician sounding" was the "populist strongman" because the trafitional media's propaganda has been slick highly-educated technocrat style for years.
Further you can't really start from your own "predisposed to believe that Democrats are truthful in what they say" point of view when trying to understand people who are not aligned with either "tribe" and for whom neither side is assumed honest so they're trying to figure out which one is less dishonest (or just think "they're all liars" and won't vote).
(I see the exact same issue with the members of the small leftwing party I'm a member of in my own country - they simply don't get it that most people don't just presume like them that the words of the party leaders are honest and those of other party leaders are dishonest)
I think the point the OP was making was that the Democrat leadership didn't even try to sound more believable to sway such people - they just kept on saying the usual things in the very same style as the propaganda of the last 2 decades thus sounding the same, whilst the Republican changed their discourse style so even though they lied even more than before, they sounded "not the usual lies" for some of the people trying to "gut feel" their way around politics coming from a non-aligned standpoint.
The nicest possible interpretation is that the Democrat leadership are guilty of massive incompetence.
This makes a kind of sense. If you assume they're not listening to any of the words, but just the tone, then I guess that might explain things. But I don't want to think so many people are acting like literal dogs.
Hitler junior was change so just let Hitler junior rule the country? That's pretty stupid, my friend.
That's how it works when your guy lets the majority of the country become significantly poorer. They care less about where the change comes from.
It's not stupid. It's cause-and-effect, specifically, what you get when you vote blue no matter who.
It is reasonable, because of what change meant in this scenario.