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Originally this was a reply to this article about a Windows feature called Recall, but there's a good argument the author's concerns resonate far beyond Windows and Meta to proprietary generally.

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[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 193 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (6 children)

"im a henchman for a bad guy....and lemme tell you...I think we might be starting to do bad stuff...not sure yet..."

Thanks bud

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Hey now, he didn't say he was working close with Trump, he said he was working closing with Trump.

I'm sure there's a distinct difference.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, not everyone has a choice in who they work for in end-stage-capitalism. Work is about survival, not ideology. The majority of Americans are not far-right capitalists, but the vast majority of CEOs are, and it's not really possible to survive long enough to start a small business in most of the US without investment from a far-right capitalist or inheritance (usually also from a far-right capitalist family member).

[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If you have the skillset and CV to work at Meta, you have a choice to work somewhere slightly lower on the scale of exploitation.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Dude, look around. Most of us are way, WAY past the "We're all in this together! We can do it if we try!" method of living and have been operating in survival mode for the past 5 years. And can you blame them? The flood waters are rising and people are wanting to make sure they have a life raft. If that means working for evil people/companies, then so be it. It's not like working somewhere else will stop or slow the flood. Morals are nice, but they won't keep you afloat.

[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

Yes morals won't keep you afloat. But FAANG, military defense contractors, and the other most terrible industries waaaay overpay on cost of living, and other industries are also looking to compensate well for expertise (minus some compensation for all the exploitation you wouldn't be contributing to).

What you're describing is the development of a paranoid conservative mindset in response to traumatic global events. This is how my conservative Fox News brainrot parents describe the world, and they are the type to own guns because they're deathly afraid of home intruders even though their city's crime index is among the best in the country.

[–] Based_and_Cool@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

Very big window between participating in society via capitalism vs working directly for, eg. FAANG or a military defense contractor. It's leaping over every less shitty option to get to the end because that's what pays best. How funny that I considered writing a pre-reply for this exact comic in my original comment.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 88 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

At some point we need to start welcoming people to the Light, instead of demonizing them for having been in the Dark. It's pretty difficult for me not to dunk on people as they wake up to the nightmare that they voted for, but a lot them ARE actually otherwise decent folks. Making America Great is going to involve deprogramming a lot of people.

[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

That's all good and well and I agree with you, but I also believe if you have and are continuing to feed the machine, then you don't get to be put on a pedestal or respected for recognizing how bad the machine is. This person is repeating something that is already very well known and accepted and is simultaneously adding to the alarm while causing it. I have extremely low patience for that particular brand of person. They are continuing to cause the problem they are rallying against.

If I were face to face with this person, I'd genuinely say "either quit working there or shut the fuck up."

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What about when it's your family? I am estranged from a lot of people that I care deeply for because they refuse to engage with reason. I'm not trying to put anyone on a pedestal, good or bad.

I just want people to know that they are welcome to change their minds, nobody is going to mock them for doing so, or say I told you so. That's what they expect, and pride is part of what holds many of them back from admitting that they were wrong. Because it's what they would do. Unfortunately, we're going to need to take the high road.

[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The predestal/respect bit in my comment was about this post as a whole. IMO, the screenshotted person does not deserve to be paid attention to. They are not revealing anything new by any means while choosing to make the problem worse.

I don't know what anyone being in my family has to do with anything. My response is the same: if you are unhappy enough to complain out loud about something you are helping cause, either do something about it or shut the fuck up.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I just want people to know that they are welcome to change their minds, nobody is going to mock them for doing so, or say I told you so.

JSYK: I and many others are putting great effort into letting them know that they're not welcome, because Nazis who voted for this wanted this, no excuses at campaign #3. They can either die or live in obscurity until they do, period. The time they were allowed back was pre-24 election, simple as

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 hours ago

If you label every person who voted for Trump a Nazi, you might be a Nazi

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 13 points 14 hours ago

"Are we the baddies?!"

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 16 hours ago

People gotta earn money to survive, I don't blame the employees for this. And this is not just a case of Meta's privacy being bad. This is close government involvement with potentially serious impacts and implications across all US based platforms.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

if they didnt know what they were signing up for, and they cant quit, you cant blame them

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago

if they didnt know what they were signing up for,

People knew meta (then FB) was evil in 2010, dude, cmon

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, just like the attorney's who resigned when asked to drop the charges against Eric Adams.