this post was submitted on 06 May 2025
592 points (96.2% liked)

Programmer Humor

23082 readers
1850 users here now

Welcome to Programmer Humor!

This is a place where you can post jokes, memes, humor, etc. related to programming!

For sharing awful code theres also Programming Horror.

Rules

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Remember when "The Cloud" was going to put everyone in IT out of a job?

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

Naming it "The Cloud" and not "Someone else's old computer running in their basement" was a smart move though.

It just sounds better.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 1 day ago

Many of our customers store their backups in our "cloud storage solution".

I think they'd be rather less impressed to see the cloud is in fact a jumble of PCs scattered all around our office.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think it was supposed to replace everyone in IT, but every company had system administrators or IT administrators that would work with physical servers and now there are gone. You can say that the new SRE are their replacement, but it's a different set of skills, more similar to SDE than to system administrators.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

I just think this is patently false. Or at least there are/were orgs where cloud costs so much more than running their own servers that are tended by maybe 1 FTE across a bunch of admins mostly doing other tasks.

Let me just point out one recent comparison - we were considering cloud backup for a couple petabytes of data, with a few hundred GB changing or adding / restoring every week or less. I think the best deal, where we held the software costs equal was $5/TB/Month.

This is catastrophically more expensive over a 10 year lifespan of a server or two and a small/mid sized LTO9 tape library and tapes. For one thing, we'd have paid more than the server etc in about a year. After that, tape prices have always tended down over time, and the storage costs for us for tape is basically $0 once in archive storage. We put it in a cabinet in another building - and you can fit A LOT of data in these tapes in a small room. That'll cost basically $0 additional for 20 years, forget about 10. So let's add in electricity etc - I still have doubts those will be over ~$100k over the lifetime of the project. Labor is about a wash cause you still need people to manage the backups to the cloud, and I think actually moving tapes might be ~.05 FTE in our situation. Literally anyone can be taught how to do it once the backup admin puts the tapes in the hopper or tells them which serial # to put in the hopper.

I also think that many companies are finding something similar for straight servers - at least it was in the news quite a bit for a while. Now, if you can be entirely cloud native - maybe it washes out, but for large groups of people that's still not possible due to controlling hardware (think factory,scientific, etc)or existing desktop software for which the cloud isn't really a replacement and throughput isn't great (think Adobe products, video, scientific, financial etc data).

[–] MinFapper@startrek.website 10 points 2 days ago

And some companies (like mine) just have their SDEs do the SRE job as well. Apparently it incentivizes us to write more stable code or something

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, AI is going to put some people out of work, but in turn will open lots of more specialized positions. And these positions that are lost could adapt to AI (for example, being part of the training instead of just being let go).

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There is still difference.

Cloud was FOR the IT people. Machine learning is for predicting patterns following data.

Maybe stock predictors will adapt or replace but average programmer didn't have to switch to replit because it's "cloud IDE"

[–] Ferk@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, isn't that what "get on or get left behind" means?

It does not necessarily mean you'll lose your job. Nor does "get on" mean you have to become a specialist on it.

The post picks specifically on things that didn't catch on (or that only catched on for a period of time but were eventually superseeded), but does not apply it to other successful technologies.

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I realized it suffers from (inverse) survivorship bias, only pointing out the ones that didn't survive.

Didn't one company claim something like "the internet is a fad" or "touchscreen phones are a fad" and went bankrupt/became irrelevant because they didn't adapt?

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

touchscreen phones are a fad

Blackberry? I was like 10 at the time so this is based off my memory of who had what phone but that seems like the right guess

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yep, I didn't remember well so I didn't know for certain.