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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I need a Venn diagram of whiteness to really get this. Or a scale of some sort

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Anglo-Saxon was the ~~top~~ only real white. Catholics were hated (so most of the mainland European). Irish were put into indentured servitude. Italians were essentially black. Ukrainians were slavs and were an entirely different species of humans, subhumans really. Same with Polish.

https://youtu.be/fxHWtw_GZIk

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

Anglo-Saxon was the only real white

Germanized propagandist!

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are certain ethnicities that although white, have been marginalized and scapegoated for societies problems in the past. Groups like Italians and Irish people were considered a lower-tier of white people, just above black people, especially in the US in the 18-1900's.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Italians and Irish people were considered a lower-tier of white people

I'm pretty sure they weren't considered any tier of "white" at that time.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's why the US has St Patrick's Day and Christopher Columbus Day. They needed to prove their worth to earn "whiteness"