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Vinyl and LPs - Analogue Music Goodness

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[–] miguel@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That would be lovely to just have it turned off or replaced with a simple like such as mastodon has

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. I mean, on Mastodon I don't even use likes myself, and I turn off post stats in the Tusky app. I'd rather reply or boost important things.

Overall, I'm starting to think that likes and up-/downvotes are a mistake — certainly as visible points. On the one hand, they make you think that clicking a button equals engagement with others' posts, while the metrics on your own posts can affect your own self worth.

And for some people the voting system becomes first competition for rewards, then practically combat.

Just the other day I had a minor disagreement with somebody on here who promptly went and downvoted everything I'd posted over the last week 🤷 So it's not even a disagree button at that point, it's a "fuck you" button. Like you said, throwing eggs at random people.

The only sane reason to use votes and likes is so an algorithm-free system has some way to weight some replies over others (and yes, I know even sorting by votes is a very simple algorithm), but if people vote counter to the intended use of the system — that's a failed experiment.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if there's a better way, like using js (ugh, but) to weight a post when it's been expanded.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh, but doesn't that open another can of worms concerning what is acceptable tracking? I may be unclear on exactly how this is done with js.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, very interesting conversation, but somewhat unexpected to have it under the subject of a Richard Cheese album 😂

[–] miguel@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

#Facts I'm sure he'd be delighted though :D

[–] miguel@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think tracking expansions via an ajax flag would be any different than tracking up/down votes. Presumably, you could use the exact same api. Just count 'opens' as upvotes.

I'm not 100% sure how mbin/kbin/lemmy currently implement post opens (since I've been too uninterested to dig into it), but I'd think the mechanism would be pretty much the same as it already is.

/edit: Ok, so I poked around. Yeah, it's just an ajax submission form when you upvote, so it could definitely be tied to a scrolled/read/expanded action. Which is already tracked (displayed via the colors)