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I do get the horrendous conditions but there is no upside to this situation. Ukrainian men are being kidnapped on the streets and being brought to the front where, in some places, they have an average remaining life span of three hours.
These people are not defending a right to live. They are able to flee to any other country (in oppositions to a certain other group which I will not name due to not engaging in whataboutism). That is, provided their own country would let them leave (men are not allowed to leave urkaine).
It is absolutely no option to fight for this piece of land under threat of prison or death. Forget it.
If war worthy people would be allowed to leave the country or not go to the front, i would see it differently. But under these conditions i no longer support holding ukraine. Thats not democracy.