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Not that there's anything wrong with content warnings. But you'd think people who actively celebrate massacres and call for the death of others can handle a children's cartoon lol
celebrate massacres? Do you mean the war in Ukraine?
Ukraine, as well as the Uyghur genocide in China. As long as it's the right "team" doing the evil, it's totally okay to them.
Most massacres. 7th of October massacres. The Barbara Pit. Soviet Union's gulags. The Holodomor. The doctors plot murders. List goes on and all are documented on this community.
7th October was a Hamas attack, Barbara Pit was honest-to-god massacre that involved fascist Croatians affiliated with Nazi Germany, Gulags are Gulags, Holodomor is like calling the American Dustbowl a massacre (Wikipedia doesn't agree on it being one) and the doctors plot can't even be confirmed
Why not talk about Xinjiang or Russian war crimes? Or Assad? Those are way more up to date
That's apologia, you're deflecting and handwaving all of this with whataboutism.
7th of October massacres. The Barbara Pit. Soviet Union’s gulags. The Holodomor. The doctors plot murders. All atrocities. The Holodomor itself was a genocide.
Whataboutism only makes sense as a criticism when you use it to justify others, which I don't think applies to me as I never compared them to anything, I never placed their value to be connected to an external context in a comparison, I only said what they were.
You can't just shut down discourse by shouting 'Apologia' or 'Whataboutism'
Neither did I deflect nor handwave it, I said it as I thought it was, Hamas attacks did cause civilian casualties although exaggerated by Israel, Yugoslavian freedom fighters did massacre those Croatians and keep it hidden for 60 years and the Holodomor did kill hundreds of thousands
What frustrates me to no end is these topics becoming taboo, and even with Wikipedia accepting that there is discourse, people rejecting it because of Tankies
I am stupid for writing this much when I don't even need to, but either way their more modern claims and what they support hold more weight than what they think of the past, you could've talked about them supporting Assad for example
You're not discussing anything, though. The Holodomor is a genocide. The survivors call it a genocide. The perpetrators say it was deliberate.
Now you're being revisionist by downplaying these atrocities.
Before this message gets deleted for hostility, he was mentioning him marking 7th of October as a massacre, and the commenter replied that using that as an example only propagates the genocide