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[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The fact that you're willing to argue that mental disorders can cause abusive behaviour at all tells me you're not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.

There are two legitimate sides to this argument: they do, and they don't. You're part of the manufactured hypocritical third side, which argues some do and some don't, and the difference is how many people with the disorder you've heard a sob story from.

[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you are just going to state your false dichotomy fallacy outright? Yes different disorders have different symptoms and not all have the same effect on social functions. Just as I wouldn’t expect an amputated leg and a toothache to be the same in regards to their effect on running speed. Not all physical illnesses “either do or don’t make it more difficult to run” so why would all mental conditions “either make or not make one abusive”?

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck you, narcissists are abusers and they deserve to be put to death

[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I thought all mental disorders made people abusers in your opinion? Do you think everyone with a mental disorder should be killed? Narcissists, autistic people and people with depression or post traumatic stress alike?

[–] smoker@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Exactly what did I say to give you the impression that any disorder caused abusive behavior?

I said they are neither mutually inclusive nor exclusive - in other words, no direct causal relationship. Ever heard the phrase “correlation is not causation”? It just so happens that NPD correlates with abusive behavior much more than ASD does, and that isn’t according to any “sob stories” I heard - it’s from the DSM-5 which I linked to and which I’m now guessing you probably didn’t read.

Anyway, I’m done with this. Have fun with your black-and-white life.

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The DSM isn't for correlations, it's for causation