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The original was posted on /r/todayilearned by /u/kalni on 2025-05-31 20:36:01+00:00.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but "something still stands" does not equal "nothing has fallen". Not every Indian has access to a toilet that is flushed with water, there are houses built upon heaps of trash, kids who genuinely think taking some government job and then living off bribes is a good way to live, what has become of cast system and how care for women has been twisted into oppression - someone a little more knowledgeable can spend whole days just enumerating problems. And all this in a land where they had enlightened kings (in spiritual sense, as in "knowing how everything works") and also leathers and societies capable of lifetimes of dedicated work

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Those problems were still present when they were one of the biggest generators of wealth in the world, no? I don't see your point

India is still extremely wealthy. You have some of the best food and land in the world. Your trains and internet infrastructure are better than most countries.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No, they were not:

  • homes are on very recent trash, think plastic and such
  • caste system used to mean "do what you are good at" which for most people is "what you learned from people around you". Now it is "do what you are allowed to do, or else"
  • you know some temples ban women, especially on their period? It was done initially so that they don't catch unwanted influences, now it is "you are impure and unwanted here"
  • some temples took generations to build and need certain things to be done in order to keep them functioning as intended. Now people who still have the knowledge have to first get the government to let them do what's needed

Besides all that, I am talking about wellbeing and the magnitude of people this land has produced. They were incredible, but many of them won't make it in current society

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have a hard time believing all of those problems weren't problems before the Raj, with the exception that trash didn't include plastic

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago