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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Flapping my arms when I fall out of a plane is more effective than not flapping my arms. 🀷

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 0 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

not effective at accomplishing anything other than dragging things out.

Flapping my arms when I fall out of a plane is more effective than not flapping my arms.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yes, that's literally the same statement.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If it can drag out the war then it's actually effective even if its only to buy them time to negotiate.

luffy-exhausted its like you don't even know what your own words mean.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, wait, wait, you genuinely think this is going to work in their interest in the end? 🀦

Let's just review how that's worked out so far. Before the war started, Ukraine could've implemented Minsk agreements and kept all of its territory. Two weeks into the war, it could've simply agreed not to join NATO, and kept most of its territory. Then in 2024, it could've just lost Donbas and Luhansk, now Ukraine going to lose everything east of Dnepr. Every single day the war continues Ukrainian position deteriorates, and they will lose more people and territory as a result. If this goes long enough there's not going to be an Ukraine left.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Buddy, I understand you'd really prefer if that was my position but I've told you repeatedly its not. It is either an insulting lack of reading comprehension or willful ignorance that you keep insisting that's my position. Let me spell my position out for you:

  • FPV drones are an effective form of munitions.
  • Ukraine relies heavily on FPV drones for its defense.
  • Without them Russia would've been in Keiv many months ago.
  • FPV drones are made cheaply by volunteers in Ukraine.
  • Ukraine's claims of having an FPV drone shortage could just be propaganda to motivate their own populace to produce more.

This is all I have ever tried to claim. But you somehow keep wishing I was some pro-Ukraine lib because in that fantasy you can win some internet points.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

maybe you can help me, a dumdum with poor reading comprehension, to parse this then

If it can drag out the war then it’s actually effective even if its only to buy them time to negotiate.

And yes, nobody is arguing with you that fpv drones are a form of ammunition. Whether Russia would've been in Kiev or not without them many months ago is debatable however. You simply have to look at the size of the front and the numbers of people involved to see that a few thousand drones a day cannot possibly be the decisive factor in Russian advance.

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