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We TOTALLY didn't see this coming, lol!

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Alternative take, this is all staged to keep you entertained while other stuff are going on.

Even the whole Elon leaving, then feuding live on twitter is so closed to wrestling and people are so entertained (me included tbh) rather than questioning or fighting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

It could be a bit of both. Somehow I don’t think Trump would agree to Elon publicly calling him a pedo.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

They really are not that smart or disciplined. They have plenty of other obviously distracting stuff going on and they have all the branches of government so it isn't like they really need distractions anyway.

Let's stop giving them credit for playing 4d chess. The figureheads are selfish assholes who can't get along but are useful idiots for the owners of the Republican party. That is explanation enough.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Or they are just a bunch of stupid people and they do what stupid people do

Occam's Razor, also known as the principle of parsimony, suggests that the simplest explanation, with the fewest assumptions, is usually the most accurate.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 59 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Genuinely, I don't believe trump or elon are capable of that level of acting at this point.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 37 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Seriously, the two biggest man babies on the planet had a disagreement and are having pissing match on the internet. Is that hard to believe? I don't get the people pushing this "THIS IS ACTING" crap either. Elon FOR SURE couldn't.

There's no nefarious shit to distract you from because there's too much nefarious shit for you to keep track of WITHOUT the arguments.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A bit of column A, a bit of column B.

This is their whole shtick: constantly manufacturing more outrage and "engagement". Yes, the personal grievances, egomania and narcissism are real. But it's just what they do. Throwing shit at the wall, and if something sticks, decide what to do with it. It's not acting per se but it has method. Very simple, very primitive, only half-coscious method, but a method it is.

And surely meanwhile somebody behind them is using the opportunity to actively dismantle US democracy - more focused, but essentially still using the same "method".

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This situation is certainly beneficial for Trump, as it places him back in the spotlight and generates conversation. It's also advantageous for Elon, as people flock to Twitter for updates and discussions. Additionally, the ongoing debate about whether to borrow more money allows Elon to position himself as the "good" guy advocating for the right side.

The more I analyze it, the more it seems like a manufactured outrage aimed at boosting engagement.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

You know, they figured out a long time ago that smart people weren't any better at getting to the truth in emotional contexts, because a smart person can just think up more logical reasons for why the reason they want to be true is true.

The human brain is primarily emotional, not intellectual. We receive stimuli, the brain decides the most appropriate emotion to respond to the stimulus with, and then generates reasoning post hoc. This, btw, is why Trump can be so successful despite his obvious bullshittery - he creates an emotional response in his followers, and then leaves the reasoning up to them.

What is happening to you is that your brain has been trained to associate news of Trump with fear and distress. So since the emotional response can't possibly be wrong (according to your brain), you keep looking for ways to make it seem reasonable until you find some.

Take a step back and realize that the most likely outcome here is good. When narcissistic egomaniacs gain power, they must contend with the fact that their power only exists with the help of the spinless syncophants, backstabbing snakes, and other narcissistic egomaniacs they brought with them. Once they gain the top position, there isn't much to keep them distracted from backstabbing and infighting. There is no real belief in higher ideals that ties everyone together - just pure self interest. So once their self interests conflict - even over such minor things as perceived slights - they start to spin out, and can no longer effectively collaborate.

Even some dark, shadow-y puppeteer is unlikely to benefit from this. Maybe their dark, shadow-y plans are largely unaffected, and there is a small chance that the random chaos of conflict will help them.... But people achieve things - including nefarious things - by making and executing long term plans which universally depend on some level of stability in the environment. Of course, you don't raise to the level of top-tier villainy with a pessimistic can't-do attitude. A good evil capitalist should always look at situations with an eye towards their opportunities - but objectively, this will be a setback for anyone banking on Trump or Musks political influence, or the effectiveness of the Trump administration to create real and lasting change in the name of evil.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

at the very least they couldn't fake a fight without it becoming a real one

[–] Merlu@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think so. The people who enjoy the fight are precisely the ones who despise them for what they did -and still do- in a political level.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 9 hours ago

And those exact people are now a little calmer because stuff is less shitty suddenly, they were right it won't last and a plethora other reasons.

A dangerous position to find yourself in while the people are still in power.

Might be true, might be just a red herring.