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Holy shit. Goon squads. They don't even identify themselves??
Imagine a hypothetical scenario where a group of random citizens gang up on an ICE agent during their Sunday stroll and handcuff them, and throw them off a bridge somewhere, handcuffs still on.
How would a sheriff know that they aren't ICE agents themselves? Or are we going by skin colour?
We need to stop respecting their authority or it will never stop. The thing is people obey when they say “stay back” or we’re going to arrest you” - then these mere men / cowards get the power trip they enjoy.
Fuck Ice.
We need to fight them as having no authority when they operate against the constitution / judges orders.
They don't ID themselves and show a warrant? Fight back. Fuck it. Nothing to lose now. Never go with feds quietly.
Except your freedom, job or life.
If you’re being apprehended by ICE, you’re almost certainly losing some of those no matter how you respond. I don’t know that you’ve got better chances if you fight back alone, but if people around you join in and try to unarrest you, you might have a shot at going home that evening.
If you're the one guy being arrested, fighting against 10 agents will only get you bruises and additional charges.
If you're one of the witnesses the chances of unarresting someone are slim and the chances of going to jail are big. I would admire anyone who's brave enough to do it but sad truth is that there are very few people like that out there.
They aren't agents unless they have a badge and a warrant. Failing to produce those means you are being assaulted by unknown assailants. Your freedom and life are already in danger at that point and you have a legal right to self defense.
Sure, but if I’m going to be kidnapped and sent to a black box prison to die, I don’t know if I would care much about that.
Bystanders who are obviously white and documentably citizens are in the best position to try to unarrest people, if they can. It’s not illegal to prevent a kidnapping if you can, and a group of people who don’t show a warrant or identify themselves taking someone off the street against their will is a kidnapping.
I’m aware that it requires bravery and has very serious potential consequences, but I cannot emphasize enough that just because a person is not currently the target of this type of violence, does not mean that they can stay uninvolved. I understand not wanting to do it, but it’s like not wanting to go to the doctor about a sketchy mole because you’re afraid of hospitals.
Nope. Fighting will get me killed. I ALWAYS have a knife on me. I'll take at least two of the shit stains with me though. I know lots of places to strike where you will bleed out in less than a minute.
No you won't. Knives are s shit weapon. You pull it , you get shot.
Smoke and fear are far more potent weapons.
Can't apprehend what you can't see
I've been shot before. That doesn't stop me, unless they get lucky. I agree about smoke, but if they come to my house, I have molotovs.
Yeah, but when you're going to lose those anyway...
They're actively taking all of those from us
Considering ICE recently detained a US Marshal "by mistake", I think that's right on the money
He "fit the general description of a subject being sought by ICE". Clearly, they saw someone with brown skin and went from there. This clearly demonstrates the incompetence and hatred of those directing and working for ICE.
People should try that, for science. In Minecraft.