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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Yeah let's not forget who they are, the people in power in Iran. Worst scum on earth.

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

it's a shame that when scum fights scum there are so many innocent civilians who will suffer. there are no good guys in this. A little bully with rich parents picked a fight with a big bully and everything that can come out of this will suck.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there are no good guys in this.

There were no "good guys" in World War 2 either, and yet you don't see people going around squealing "both sides were scum!" At anyone who supported the allied

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

WWII is a very weird exception. Most people have this mentality for just about every war in history except for WWII and really recent wars. For some reason, in the West history starts and stops with WWII. That is the point of reference for everything, and it's the only war that's with a superhero comic lens where there is an ultimate good and an ultimate evil... but that's not really how history works.

[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago

Agreed.

I give preference to Iranian civilians because it's a lot harder for them to relocate than it is for Israelis.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

A fair assessment IMO.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it normal to allow people to send military information to your enemy?

I'm not a huge fan of either of the two belligerent, but this is not exactly an unreasonable position to take. And they are at least putting reporters on notice.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean if they really just wanted to make sure military information doesn't reach Israel they wouldn't impose the death penalty; the excessive punishment makes it clear this is going to be used to suppress unrelated dissent.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

Information flow can never go backwards. There's plenty of examples of reporters or even social media compromising military operations. In at least a few cases, it has lead to the destruction of military assets. Once broadcast, the damage is done.

Trying to force reporters to think hard about what they are broadcasting is a good thing, from the point of view of national defence.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

"hey, so if we think you published classified info, you're gonna get killed. Is that okay with you guys? Thanks for being so understanding."

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it's a dictatorship I'd say yes because they are (also) the enemy.

I'm also against the death penalty in general, but especially for scaring your own citizens into obedience.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, apparently murder is supposed to be used for scaring foreign citizens into obedience, based on what liberals say

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Not the worst scum, that honour goes to the leadership of Israel and the Western leaders supporting their genocide.

And if you think Iran is the only country that executes people who send information to the enemy, you need to crack a history book

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As bad as israeli and united snake leaders

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whataboutism is for blaming USA when the Russians have done something bad, not the iranians or Israelis 🤷🏼‍♀️.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 20 hours ago

They is no whataboutism. You just have double standard