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Pakistan to drop nuclear weapon on Israel if Israel nukes Iran, says Rezaei
(www.turkiyetoday.com)
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Thanks I appreciate that. I do hope it holds off long enough for me to move on somewhere safe. But don't know if I will be able to. And don't see no one building any vaults.
Hmmm, I wonder could we start crowd sourcing this now?
Crowd source... VaultTec?
Probably not... at the scale of their Vaults.
Every once in a while, some kind of abandoned nuclear silo or mine or something does pop up for sale... but they almost all get snapped up by, you guessed it, billionaires looking to convert it into their personal apocalypse bunker.
For a well off layman? A group of maybe 10 or 20 such people?
Uh, basically, buy some shipping containers, cut out some walls and put in new supoort structures,, dig a big fucking hole out in the boonies, put your container-plex in the hole, fit it with a well/cistern, ventilation, filters, some kind of power solution, yada yada, bury it 2 or 3 stories deep, set up a ladder and manhole and basically airlock/decontamination entrance.
Probably gonna want an actual architect involved there.
Probably doable for ... comparable to the cost of house?
???
Only other thing I can think of is that there are actually a few, now long defunct, actual purpose built fallout shelter for maybe a couple hundred people, built back in the 50s/60s in various US cities... might be possible to use them as shelter, probably impossible to retrofit and refurb beforehand.
Or become a mole person and live in sewers/steam tunnels/subway tunnels, if your city has those.
Companies exist (first example I found, I've no clue of anything about them) to install this sort of thing. I've no idea if they are any good; or, if their prices are what their site claims for some of them. But, it does seem that one can get a "professionally" installed bomb shelter for about the price if a house (assuming one already has the land). Of course, stocking it, and keeping food/water/supplies up to date seems like it would cost a good bit as well.
Well shit, hey there ya go.
But uh yeah, keeping it stocked is actually a bitch and a half.
You have to monitor temp and humidity levels, else most shit will in fact go bad. You really, really do not want to move into your bunker and discover a surprise black mold infection everywhere.
Gotta check your water system, gotta check your electricals... its not just buy it and forget it, it requires active monitoring and maintenance.
Like uh, more recently, a whole bunch of gun nuts went out and bought themselves boatloads of ammo during the latest 'Dems are gonna take all your guns' scare... thinking of it as both a more normal situation 'investment' (planning on prices going up forever) as well as useful for barter and shooty shoot in a shtf scenario.
Well guess what, that was a cyclical bubble, not a new constant trend, ammo didnt just keep going up and up and up.
Oh and if you move, transporting a small armory's worth of ammo is a logistical nightmare: very dense and heavy, also it can explode, also its fucking weapons grade munitions, enjoy paperwork, also a bunch of states just passed laws that more or less said... yeah, if you're 3rd party transacting ammo, you have to do that all through a gun store who can submit all the paperwork, no more loophole for untrackable ammo with no paper trail.
And the best part: many, many of these buffoons... didn't bother with environmental control.
Surprise, idiots!
Heating and cooling cycles weaken cartridges over time, air can get into a cartridge with a compromised seal, which now begins to ... basically neuter your gunpowder, rust is a thing that can happen when moisture is too high, as is mold, and all of these things can turn your rounds low quality or outright into duds in just a few years of not being properly stored.
There is truly nothing funnier to watch than divorced Republican dads fail and fail and fail all over again at everything they attempt because they are too overconfident, don't bother to fully research a topic before diving into it, and assume they are experts because they watched another overconfident asshole on youtube acted like one... and disregard any relevant questions or criticism from someone they don't respect.