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I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.

I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.

I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.

Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.

Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.

In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (24 children)

In this thread:

  1. An OP that doesn’t understand how their network is working
  2. People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source. I have yet to see anyone recommend Emby.
  3. “Tailscale will solve all your problems!” Great - how do I make that work on an LG TV that’s 100 miles away?
[–] tabular@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)
  1. Open source has high immunity to devs making changes at the expense of user for their benefit because anti-features can be removed. Recommending another proprietary alternative here would be like saying they aught to leave an abusive partner but then recommend someone with the same red flags.
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)
  1. It’s also the most complex to set up, and for many people the threshold is “walking your tech-illiterate mother-in-law through side loading it over the phone, because she lives 100 miles away… She’s afraid to touch her computer for anything except email and Facebook. And then resetting her password every 30 days, because she keeps locking herself out of it.” Suddenly the “just fucking sign into Plex and it automatically discovers your server” option becomes a lot more appealing.
[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

To continue the metaphor: a partner can have many alluring qualities (income, hobbies, looks) but what does that matter if the relationship is abusive? Leaving (and dating someone "worse") can be more difficult that just staying in the relationship, but the priority should be clear.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Jellyfin is the most complex to set up, right? (Just making sure I’m reading this correctly)

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[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My tech-illiterate mom uses my Jellyfin instance with no issues. I sent her a link to the app store, her credentials, my server's hostname and that was it. And once it's set up, Jellyfin is much more straightforward to use than Plex.

Sure Jellyfin has issues and doesn't support as many types of devices, but Plex is far from perfect. I use it like twice a year, and the UI gets more and more confusing with each update IMO.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jellyfin doesn’t have an app on every App Store. On some, you have to sideload it, by enabling developer mode and connecting to a PC that is running an App Store server. Then the TV downloads it from the PC.

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seriously. I hate when people assume default settings are the only option. You don't even need a Plex account to set up Plex. It will just be less seamless and user friendly. Never adopt the server, configure these via localhost (ssh tunnel works) and then set up your networking. Don't even need to update it, it will run for as long as the database stays stable. Which should be years or more.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

3 - An OpenWRT router with Wireguard connecting to another router 1000 miles away will do the trick.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Great; how do I get my Mother to do that over the phone?

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thanks.

One of my pet peeves is when people immediately jump to whatever their fanboy program of choice is regardless of if it’s actually the right program to run in the situation given.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If #3 is your use case, then yeah, pony up the fees. Or learn to code I guess.

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[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actual answer for 3:

  • put jellyfin behind a proper reverse proxy. Ideally on a separate host / hardware firewall, but nginx on the same host works fine as well.
  • create subdomain, let's say sub.yourdomain.com
  • forward traffic, for that subdomain ONLY, to jellyfin in your reverse proxy config
  • tell your relatives to put sub.yourdomain.com into their jellyfin app

All the fear-mongering about exposing jellyfin to the internet I have seen on here boils down to either

  • "port forwarding is a bad idea!!", which yes, don't do that. The above is not that. Or
  • "people / bots who know your IP can get jellyfin to work as a 1-bit oracle, telling you if a specific media file exists on your disk" which is a) not an indication for something illegal, and b) prevented by the described reverse proxy setup insofar as the bot needs to know the exact subdomain (and any worthwhile domain-provider will not let bots walk your DNS zone).

(Not saying YOU say that; just preempting the usual folklore typically commented whenever someone suggests hosting jellyfin publicly accessible)

[–] Lazarus@mastodon.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OK, add step above: use wildcard certificate for your domain.

Terminating the TLS connection at your perimeter firewall is standard practice, there's no reason your jellyfin host needs to obtain the certificate.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Where do I find Wireguard for my LG TV?

You can’t expect my relatives living 100+ miles away to start monkeying around with their router. That be like asking you to set the spark plug timing correctly using a timing gun.

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