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This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.

This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.

Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?

Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.

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[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, there’s that genocide denial.

Answer the question. Is there a genocide in the west bank which ISN'T controlled by Hamas?

Hard for a genocide denier like you to ''go numbers". You still haven’t revealed where your numbers come from, by the way.

All of the sources are listed, I imagined it would be easier for you to have a look att the article rather that wade through a list of various estimates from here. But ok:

https://www.wsj.com/world/one-million-are-now-dead-or-injured-in-the-russia-ukraine-war-b09d04e5

https://kyivindependent.com/a-very-bloody-war-what-is-the-death-toll-of-russias-war-in-ukraine/

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250217-ukraine-war-death-toll-huge-but-not-fully-known

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/over-12300-civilians-killed-since-start-ukraine-war-un-says-2025-01-08/

https://hrmmu-3-year-update.my.canva.site/

Just because you don't consider soldiers as people, doesn't mean that the rest of us doesn't. They are likely fed so much misinformation that they might aswell be civilians that have been tricked to fight.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Answer the question. Is there a genocide in the west bank which ISN’T controlled by Hamas?

So you're doubling down on that genocide denial.

All of the sources are listed, I imagined it would be easier for you to have a look att the article rather that wade through a list of various estimates from here. But ok:

Damn, you really are going to a lot of effort to avoid actually saying where the one million number actually comes from. Is it not a credible source?

Interesting that you're even going so far as to post articles that give numbers an order of magnitude or two lower than what you're trying to claim. I guess you were hoping no one would actually read them and would just assume that the links backed you up? Probably should have tried not to have the numbers show up even in the link text.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

So you’re doubling down on that genocide denial.

Answer the question. Or could it be that you can't face the fact that you've been lied to?