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I'll get to Türkiye soon, that's a lot to respond to. But I'll start here:
I think this is the biggest issue, we've been talking at cross purposes. The point this dingbat has been trying to make the whole time has been the cultural continuity. The US doesn't have it because it put the break with Britain and monarchy, and the denigration of American Indian culture at its core.
I kept talking about Central and South American nations to highlight the difference. Maybe I could've been cleared, but go back and reread my posts with that in mind.
That I mean cultural continuity and heritage is also why I'd trace Russia back to Kievan Rus and the shared Slavic origins. Yes, all the genocide and imperialism against all the other people are bad, and also a part of Russian national heritage at this point. It's also very grim and beyond the scope of this conversation, so I'll acknowledge it, agree it is and continues to be an atrocity.
And In fact, that the disagreement comes from my failing to clearly articulate that I meant cultural continuity and heritage. Not modern carving out of the land that makes up modern borders.