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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 70 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

NYT - emphasis mine

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu drew blowback in Israel after he lamented the “personal cost” of the war in a television interview at the site of an Iranian missile strike. “Each of us bears a personal cost, and my family has not been exempt,” Netanyahu said. “This is the second time that my son Avner, due to missile threats and rocket fire, has cancelled a wedding.”

The reaction from some Israelis was swift. Gilad Kariv, a member of the Knesset, wrote on X of families “who will now never celebrate the weddings that were once meant to take place.” Yehuda Cohen, the father of an Israeli being held hostage in Gaza, said that not only can his son not get married but “he can’t breathe, he can’t see daylight and has been in danger of death for more than 20 months.”

Avner Netanyahu’s wedding was scheduled to take place in November 2024 but was canceled for security reasons. It had been rescheduled for June 16 but was delayed again after Israel began bombing Iran.

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 8 points 16 hours ago

This poor boy had to postpone his party, TWICE! Remember the cost next time you think of defending your nation!

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 47 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't Netanyahu's son in Florida anyway?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 48 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

That's Yair who is some kind of douchebag - shocker I know. I don't know anything about Avner and he has no Wikipedia page.

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago

11.04.24: Netanyahu's son postpones wedding amid security threats

After a drone fired from Lebanon hit the family's private residence, efforts were made to locate a safe venue for the nuptials of Avner and his bride; now they announce they are postponing the happy event until summer

14 June 2025: Monday’s wedding of PM’s son postponed amid conflict with Iran

The prime minister’s son’s wedding had already caused controversy, drawing ire from some anti-government protesters who denounced the Netanyahu family for holding a celebration while Israeli hostages are still held in Gaza under the premier’s watch.

Several anti-government protest organizations had made known in recent weeks that they were organizing demonstrations in the area of the wedding.

Amid ongoing security concerns, iron roadblocks and barbed wire fences had been erected within a 100-meter (109-yard) radius of the venue — the upscale Ronit’s Farm event hall in Kibbutz Yakum, north of Tel Aviv. Police had also announced earlier this week that airspace within a 1.5 kilometer (0.9 miles) radius of the venue would be closed except for police helicopters.