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Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing. You can spot «danger for someone» just about anywhere you look.

Now the question was if you sometimes drink strategically. Drinking all the time or every day isn't drinking strategically.

Try being human sometimes, and not trying to outdo each other being «perfect». Unless you’re 14 and trying to fit in…

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Rigth - and downvotes fixes it? This is lunacy and detrimental to discussion/sharing.

Thank you. But anecdotally, it seems there are few of us who think this. I still don't understand why.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Lower karma posts are less likely to be seen?

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly my point. The virtual equivalent of taping someone's mouth shut because you happen not to agree with what they say.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Freedom of speech as an absolute sounds virtuous until you hit the paradox of tolerance.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Freedom of speech as an absolute

Of course it's not absolute, where did I say otherwise? Straw man.

paradox of tolerance

This just feels like a fancy reference deployed to back up intolerance.

They never made a straw man argument because they qualify it with the second part that you cut off. Why did you do that?

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then you do understand why people are downvoting because this is bad advice and others dont want people to see it.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, a quick review of this thread did not clearly reveal who was downvoting who for what. My position, and this other person's, is that downvoting opinions is bad manners and toxic to healthy discussion. If there was genuinely harmful advice there, then OK, downvote away.

(Obviously these days the word "harmful" is thrown around liberally so this probably just puts us back to square one.)

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It seems you might not understand what downvotes are for then. Downvotes are for things that do not contribute to discussion so things like insults or actively dangerous suggestions should be downvoted.

Suggesting what is a very typical path to addiction for addicts is very bad advice and should not be shared. When someone is foolish enough to do so it should be downvoted because the whole discussion is toxic

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