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I feel like something your post is leaving out about boxing is how we fairly recently (last decade?) learned about CTE, how fucking scary it is, and how boxing puts you at a very high risk for it.
Long term I don't really see how the sport survives in its current form
Any full contact combat sport that allows blows to the head - the public knowledge that suffering a single knockout permanently damages the brain should've shut this shit down, or at least merited a total rethinking of how combat sports should work.
I completely agree with you. If I had children I would firmly refuse to let them do boxing or tackle football. Unfortunately, overwhelming evidence of direct harm seems to not be enough for many people to ban these sports
Shit I did it all. Boxing, mma, rugby, even in soccer heading CTE is a risk. Now I have a fuckton of health issues. That and military. For combat sport a lot of the damage is done in sparring. A lot of old school sparring wars we did were more brutal than the matches.
Just another way to keep the working poor down....
It has a fucked up history. It was very popularly practiced back then by aristocrats but it grew in prominence among the working class and the aristocrats realized they wanted no smoke in it.
Thankfully we have invented the perfect 'sport' for the aristocracy: golf!
American football is so wildly popular that I don't think it'd ever get banned in the US. The silver lining is that rules changes are making CTE and head/neck injuries less common (the kinds of tackles and hits that were completely legal even 15 years ago are fucking wild to watch nowadays, straight up helmet-to-helmet contact at full sprint and everyone just shrugged and went back for the next play even as both players are wobbling like they're drunk) to the point where all the other body-wrecking injuries will hit players first so they don't have time to turn their brains to swiss cheese.
I'm glad they are at least doing something, my guess is in the long term we will still see a lot of the same problems
There were increase of kids dying in football practice due to heat as well. All that gear couldn't have helped
Definitely not. Football also has a lot of coaches with brainworms about hydration being a reward for hard practice and is primarily played in southern climates, which is not a good combination. Throw in climate change and you get a shitshow.
The chuds blamed covid vaccines. I'm not joking. No really
I’m in the same boat as you and I believe this way of thinking will only become more popular until schools simply don’t have enough players for a(n) (american) football team. Lots of kids with working class parents pretty much have to get involved in an after school activity but men’s soccer is typically the same season as football and the equipment cost is much lower….
Added to the list of reasons to pray for the fall of burgerlandia
Get those kids into POWER SLAP instead. The fact that this "sport" was allowed to exist at all...actually shameful. And I'm a combat sport enjoyer!
forgot about that shit. such a gross venture and the fact it was advertised so heavily on the UFC's youtube channel pisses me off so much.
That's just par for the course for Dana & the UFC though. Wish (popular) MMA didn't have to deal with his stink on everything but here we are
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
The Shaolin Monks had the right idea. A martial art you can keep doing until you're elderly minimizing long term injuries.
I just saw a headline the other day that said in soccer there’s “no safe amount” of heading the ball
From studies I've seen soccer, rugby, am football, hockey, wrestling, have the highest concussion rates in high school/ college sports
Yeah and the in ring deaths we've seen. They seen IV rehydration removed and that made things riskier. The way dadashev died was brutal. They reduced the rounds from those hundreds of rounds to 15 back then. Then from 15 to 12. It doesn't matter the human body is not meant to take shots to the head
brain damage has always been an obvious risk of boxing. the participants were usually under no illusion there. we used to call old boxers “punchy” and now we use a more scientific term.
it’s a poor man’s sport but the opportunities have dwindled as a result of promoter fragmentation, the lack of (free) televising, and rise of other safer or more popular sports. outside of the top few, you’re fighting for peanuts. so i reckon those who’d ever given it a shot have their sights elsewhere, even mma.
i miss the good-old days of well-matched world-class talent but we’ll never see it again. and that’s probably a good thing. my entertainment is not worth the hurt and exploitation.
Boxing was actually safer when it was bare knuckle. The gloves just let people punch more.
This is true. When you had to worry about breaking your hand, you couldn't transfer as much momentum into your opponent's skull, which is what bruises the brain
OP forgot