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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

the AND paper at the top of your spam list is expired. that is no longer the position of the academy

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

"That is no longer the position of the academy" is only true in the most pedantic sense that every position they release has a hard, unchangeable deadline (this one's was December 2021). It doesn't invalidate any of those positions. Unfortunately, the January 2025 position only covers adults, with children and pregnant/lactating people outside of the position's scope, so 2016's is the most recent position we have for "all stages of life". From the current summary:

It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that, in adults, appropriately planned vegetarian and vegan dietary patterns can be nutritionally adequate and can offer long-term health benefits such as improving several health outcomes associated with cardiometabolic diseases. [...] As leaders in evidence-based nutrition care, RDNs and NDTRs should aim to support the development and facilitation of vegetarian and vegan dietary patterns and access to nutrient-dense plant-based meals. Promoting a nutrient-balanced vegetarian dietary pattern on both individual and community scales may be an effective tool for preventing and managing many diet-related conditions.

What a scathing disavowal of the Academy's position in 2016: "Plant-based diets can provide all the nutrients you need and can offer long-term benefits including improving health outcomes associated with the number one killer in the developed world. We should work to support these diets, and promoting them to individuals and communities may help prevent and manage problems associated with our current health crisis."

Fuck this, I'm going carnivore. Pull up the griddle and get me a bacon, egg, gravy, and cheese muffin where the muffins are sausage patties. The AND has no current positions on that diet, so it means I'm in the clear.

As for the "spam list", I'm sorry, but "Because it's devastating to my case!" doesn't make it spam. And a crucial element of a Gish gallop (presuming that's what you mean by "spam") is that the arguments are individually low-quality and just exist to exhaust the rebutter. But, uh... Yeah, 90% of those are systemic reviews and meta-analyses. The other 10% are robust discussions published in peer-reviewed medical journals (such as the AJLM discussion of fiber).

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fuck this, I'm going carnivore. Pull up the griddle and get me a bacon, egg, gravy, and cheese muffin where the muffins are sausage patties.

Go slowly! Your gut biome will need time to adjust. Try introducing a bit of abf at each meal slowly increasing it every day. Make the full transition take about 3 weeks.

But avoid the gravy, it's not actually carnivore, it's a dense source of carbohydrates.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oh, dude, trust me, after spending the last six years with the most easygoing digestive system I've ever had, I know going carnivore without a transition period would be throwing sodium in water.

And don't worry about the gravy. I know all about making substitutes from omnivorous recipes.

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