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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (19 children)

no one has cared since record executives have been generating AI generated tier music by hand.

What's the fucking difference between a rich asshole comissioning music based around market resarch, to be made by some trendy female popstar, written by five different men, the singing gets autotuned, punch clock studio musicians play generic chord progressions and melodies, and it's all straight ahead 4/4

At least with imaginative gen AI, you can get cool stuff like Pho-que

If you dislike Pho-que, you'll probably dislike the human counterparts like Shining (Nor) or Naked City

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What's the fucking difference between[…]

Multiple people are getting paid so they can make a living, more money flows through the economy and even if you don’t personally find it to your taste, it’s still the result of cumulative human efforts.

Gen AI has its uses in personal entertainment but I will spit on the corpo who tries to make me pay for art a person didn’t actually compose/play.

Spotify is no paragon of morality but at least I can find real, human artists via the platform and see/support them in other ways.

When it comes to human expression, I only want my money to go to human expression (even if it’s deemed “soulless”).

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

even if you don’t personally find it to your taste,

This is the bit that pisses me off though. Corporate music has always been soulless slop, and when you point it out "oh that's just like your opinion man".

To get philosophical, because that's what the topic is; mathematics, life, human conciousness are based off similar patterns. Conway's game of life demonstrates purely mathematical cellular automata; when you go down to the chemical level, life is cellular automata with chemicals, which give way to cells, and complex structures and human beings.

Corporate pop does the same fucking shit the godless AI does. People don't sing, they don't give a shit, and it's just there as another piece of slop for idiots to fucking consume. It works in a similar way to the AI; it catches onto patterns, rigid bullshit defined by someone moron that says "hey, the millenial whoop is popular this decade, cram it into the songs we're releasing for fiscal quarter 3". "this year's hot rhythmn is the reggeton clave, shove that in". Then the zillionaire that teenage girls somehow get 1k dollars in order to see goes on stage , dances a bit and DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING SING.

The AI does the same shit "Oh, the guy put in sad, make it pianos and minor chords". But now it's not about fucking opinion, it's a fucking abomination that must be extinguished. "It all sounds like slop" My brother in christ, have you heard 80s pop music?

It's the same fucking pattern.

"oh noz, the AI is putting the real musicians out of bidness" Yeah, corporate pop doesn't do anything like that. That's why the greatest composers of our modern era have to manage touring schedules with working real fucking jobs and making losses on their tours, becuase fuck me, my opinion is worth fucking nothing. It's the same thing. Fucking DJ sets are walking around using synths instead of analog instruments, but that wasn't the crime putting honest musicians out of business, no, it's the fucking guy in india typing in a generic description into sumo ai to turn a quick buck.

How do fake bands dominate spotify when regular ones don't? It's easy; corporate business practices mean that the business side of music (or any endevour, let's fucking face it) is a zillion times more important than the actual musician aspect of music.

If this sounds like I'm on the side of AI; it's not. The point is that it's been too late for fucking decades, acting outraged about what's happening now because it uses new tech is blaming the statistic department for rises in heatwaves.

[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I wholeheartedly agree with you for the most part, but one thing confuses me. You say

Fucking DJ sets are walking around using synths instead of analog instruments [...]

Synthesizers can be both analog or digital. Neither is even remotely comparable to AI music, as there is still a very real composer. Is this a typo/misunderstanding? Thanks for clarification!

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

just trying to contrast the use of synths to replace musicians that would have to perform with the DJ. Or drum machines, or whatever.

I wasn't trying to contrast analog/digital synths, just "fake" instruments to "real" ones.

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