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The Palestinian ambassador to Canada says she feels Ottawa is on the brink of officially recognizing statehood for her people, as she also takes note of tougher language from Canada on Israel’s actions in Gaza.

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -2 points 2 days ago (9 children)

We don't need that , we need end of the genocide

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you arguing that Canada recognizing Palestinian statehood would somehow extend the Israeli government's genocide?

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am arguying that canada will use it as a smoke screen to keep supporting israel ehile pretrnfing not too. What the point of recognizing a state when palestinians will be ethenic cleansing and genocided. Will we have an empty palestinian state?

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Being officially recognized as a state would grant Palestine numerous protections and rights that it currently does not have as an Observer state in the UN.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which protections? Israel is detetmined to do the final solution right now. No indication if anything stopping them. At this point we need real actions. Complete end of all arms transfers including defensive one and state wide sanctions. Russian level of sanctions is the minimum

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel never respected a single goddamn internationsl law. Ot's not the UN who is going to stop that. It's members countries who should do russian level sanctions on israel and end trade deals with them. Stop selling and buying military equipments to israel

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree, collectively Global Governments should be harder on Israel.

That does not mean that official recognition is not a step towards that goal, or an unimportant issue.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 2 days ago

My issue is canada , france and uk ulterior motives and not the action of recognizing Palestine as a state

For France, this roadmap should guarantee Israel’s security and regional integration as well as meet the the legitimate aspiration of the Palestinians to have their own State. We must therefore build a robust and credible framework for the “day after” in Gaza: work to disarm and sideline Hamas, which should no longer be a threat to Israel, establish credible governance and reform the Palestinian Authority. The United Nations and its agencies have an important role to play in this process.

https://onu.delegfrance.org/determined-to-build-a-more-stable-middle-east-france-will-co-chair-with-saudi

Look at how France position is about Palestinians state. No acknowledging of the occupation, preceding the occupier security over the occupied security . Ask for Palestinians to disarms without any security guarantees.

I also don't trust the Palestinian authority all they kept doing is crushing all oppositions, collaborate with Israel while doing nothing to protect Palestinians against settler violence . An election is needed for the Palestinian authority that represent the real will of the west bankers

The recognition should be unconditional and be transparent about what kind of pressure should be imposed on Israel who refuse any Palestinians state

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I was thinking along the same lines but then I thought about other neighbouring countries like Lebanon. Being recognized states didn't stop Israel from doing whay they did to them. Not saying there's no difference, I'm just not sure what the practical difference is. I'm probably ignorant.

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