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[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My reading of this is that he was in favor of participating in elections, but to disrupt, not to win.

I think this is overstated. If we participate without a credible chance to win -- just to disrupt -- we're not going to attract many people. That creates a risk of getting disconnected from the masses, as well as a risk of not adequately testing our ideas against reality. We've had plenty of miniscule, insular leftist campaigns that have achieved little -- what we need is something with at least the potential to become a mass movement.

Leftist campaigns have to both run on platforms that would be genuinely disruptive and play the game well enough to have some real shot at winning.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's complicated when major parties sue to keep leftist candidates off the ballots in states/provinces/territories that have real potential to swing the status quo.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Every path to something better will be at least that complicated, likely more. Working around legal challenges is part of "playing the game well enough," and even a loss can radicalized people. How many people were radicalized by the coordinated dropout/endorsement to juice Biden's campaign in the 2020 primary? And that wasn't even some dubuous procedural issue, it was just libs being organized and hostile to the left.