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The appeal for drones, sent out to Gordon’s mailing list, has since grown into a “thermal drone matching campaign” run by the One Israel Fund, another charity based in the Five Towns that supports West Bank settlements. The group hosts tours of the West Bank and holds annual wine-tasting barbecues in the Five Towns to fund settlement security projects. Although it usually raises $3 million per year, the One Israel Fund took in $2.5 million in the month after Oct. 7, according to the Long Island Herald

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Dunno, if it should be removed or not now, cause china can’t exactly control new york dipshits sales :(

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (10 children)

As long as this obscenity persists, China is an enemy of the collective working classes of the Middle East

The old critiques of "Socialism in One Country" are hitting real hard right now

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

China is an enemy for producing commercial drones that are banned from being sold to Israel? That's the same rhetoric as the US blaming China for fentanyl because they produce some of the ingredients that, after exchanging many hands, end up being used by cartels to make drugs.

And by the same rhetoric I mean racist, imperialist nonsense.

China produces the parts for Irans drones too, are you gonna complain about that next?

Is China responsible for colonialism because they introduced gunpowder to the Europeans before they went conquesting?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The 'they said, we said' situation involving the drone bombers aside

YES China is an enemy of the working classes of the middle east, China is still trading with Israel and Arab comprador regimes, that's a fact

Sorry if that bricks your brain and makes you reach for nonsensical comparisons like the "fentanyl conspiracy", Chinese foreign policy on the Middle East is pretty clear; western defined "stability" at all costs and pumping billions more into Israeli and Gulf state coffers

China produces the parts for Irans drones too, are you gonna complain about that next?

It's almost like Chinese foreign policy famously works cross purposes with itself; on one hand selling Iran "drone parts" and on the other maintaining a 10 billion dollar trade infrastructure with Israel despite 20 months of genocide

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The orientalist bullshit you lapped up and doubled down on aside

the vast majority of people here are from the countries entirely responsible for Israel, the countries that could turn Israel off today. China could do more to pressure Israel, but saying China is the enemy of other Asian people who also rely on China for even more than Israel does is not only racist nonsense, it's literally the US position that they are pushing on Asian countries. what's next, since China is the enemy of the middle east, do you support ETIM terrorist attacks against Chinese people, obviously ETIM being a Muslim organization from Asia has every right to attack the enemies of the middle east, right? It would be their duty to destabilize and overthrow China if they really care about Gaza, or Muslims, or their allies in the middle east like ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and the Baloch Liberation Army?

Chinese foreign policy in the middle east, you mean being one of the main supporters of the entire Axis of Resistance, and literally every other anti-imperialist nation on the planet while we are at it? The key negotiator to the normalization of relations with Iran and the Saudis. The key mediator which brought 14 Palestinian factions together to be united as one for Palestinian Liberation?

you are going beyond critical support to just being unduly critical in a way that reads as if you've been just waiting to call out those pesky Chinese to the point that you fell for a conspiracy theory that China is providing Israel with drones to bomb Palestinians with, and then dismissed that you were wrong about it to double down on it. No one from the Axis of Resistance is calling out China, and all of them rely on China, but the internet Trot has deemed for the Middle East that China is the enemy.

China could stop selling teemu shirts and BYD cars to israel tomorrow and the genocide would continue. Little that China is providing Israel is essential to their existence, and Israel's real benefactors would get it for them if they needed it, in the same way they are getting the drones to Israel that China isn't sending them. They aren't providing weapons or even commercial drones, and in fact China gets more weapons tech from Israel which then ends up back into the hands of the Axis of Resistance once it is laundered through the Chinese military industrial complex. So is China supposed to shutter all it's private drone companies that make non weapons related drones, tell them to fire all their employees and go bankrupt, because they can't sell drones to anyone ever in case it ends up being misused?

The only thing China could do to truly impact Israel would be to sanction everyone who trades with Israel and essentially go against their entire geopolitical strategy of decades. To make such massive political change like in a country with over a billion people and a party of over 100 million members is no trivial thing. Not to mention it would destabilize the global economy, have massive negative material affects on the entire world working class, and probably cause the imperialists to go to war with China, or potentially provoke a nuclear response. How long from China shutting trade down with anyone who trades with Israel before Israel collapses? If it takes longer than a few days, the entire global economy is decimated, every Chinese business is decimated so all the people the Chinese state is responsible for are fucked, every country that relies on trade from China is fucked (that's most countries and the majority of people), food, medicine, energy and other necessities are no longer available for hundreds of millions if not billions of people, and they won't be the rich ones most impacted, it will be the workers you apparently speak for who are also fucked in this situation. So if Israel can hold out for a couple weeks, months, or even a year, then what?

There are so many unknown variables that would risk the lives of the Chinese people, the first priority of the Chinese nation who is not directly responsible for anything going on in Palestine, that to think it would be a simple change of policy is some laughable online gamer type analysis. Go back to your Civilization IV game and leave the decisions of who is the enemy to the people themselves.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

First of all, DO NOT PRETEND Chinese military aid is not a literal weeks old development that may or may not be sustained on Chinas part, there is zero evidence China provides military aid to the broader Axis outside of Iran and we have NO data on the scale of aid it provides to Iran and as far as diplomacy goes, look at Chinese support for PA puppets and tell me that's for the benefit of Palestinians and not western defined stability mongers. As if China didn't tacitly back the Abraham Accords, get real

Now we do have data on the billions China pumps into Israel and the Arab comprador regimes, that's reality and I couldn't give a rats ass about the phony, liberal brained, game theory, capitulationist attitude Chinese foreign policy wonks have toward the middle east

Socialism in China, developmentism in Africa, economic open doors with the rest of the world, and complete reactionary collaboration against the Arab working class, that is China's foreign policy

And you call that analysis "Orientalism" for not pretending China is a friend to Arab workers, you dont know what that word means

If you make billions with the butchers and strike breakers of Arab workers then yes, you're an enemy of MENA workers, no matter how much socialism develops in your homeland

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