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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (28 children)

there are better names than ACP for a US communist party

[–] CommissarofMars@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (19 children)

This manifesto dictates I call it the American Communist Party (Maoist).

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That manifesto is nearly 200,000 words long, to the point it had to be split in several books, that seems a bit unwieldy. More than 100 pages are spent talking about history and how other socialists that are wrong, that really doesn't feel like it belongs in a manifesto. I don't think this kind of manifesto is particularly useful, who is it going to convince to join your party?


"anarchist organizations like the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) or anti-fascist groups, can be in strategic unity with communist parties"

Political alliances are a clear violation of the IWW constitution and founding principles, I don't think that will ever happen.

"The IWW is a syndicalist organization that favors proletarian unity and militant unionism, but also opposes political struggle and the formation of a vanguard party."

The IWW doesn't describe itself as syndicalist, and basically none of the membership would refer to it that way, it's historians that assigned the label. Not strictly wrong, but just a little weird. That last bit isn't really the full truth, the IWW is opposed to a vanguard party and political struggle using it's name, but rather has a strong culture of dual membership. The IWW opposes vanguard parties the same way a building opposes cars: they aren't the same thing, and don't have exactly the same purpose. An FW would do political struggle through a political party, direct action through a local anti-fascist group, and even engage in business union organizing, and your branch/IU would think you an amazing comrade for it. It's about insulating the brand and organization from other issues to keep the focus on our thing: industrial socialism.

^tl;dr A union isn't a vanguard party, and shouldn't be.

Unlike certain other socialist organizations, being a member of a Marxist-Leninist demcent party won't stop or restrict from doing anything in the IWW. (Being a paid party official is a little different though, understandably).

Anyways, writing about the ToC and those two sentences is really all I have the energy for rn.

[–] CommissarofMars@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Manifesto of the Communist Party was had an entire section refuting other nominal socialists.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem isn't that you complain about other socialists, that's entirely reasonable, basically every major socialist writer has done exactly that. It's the length I see as the issue, that section is thousands of words longer than the entire communist manifesto, and that doesn't even count the hundreds of mentions of revisionism scattered all over, particularly in the history section. Surely it could be more concise with the same message, so there's more airtime to talk about what you bring to the table.

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