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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)
Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.
Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc
(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama
Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse
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Its a shame because they're prominent voice on lemmy. Good on the admins for not tolerating this. I don't understand the point of targeting a person you don't like on the internet just because they said something that upset you and spamming their post with downvotes. If you don't like someone block their ass and be done with it. I agree with the perspective that its harassment (and an incredibly petty ineffective form of it at that)
He tends to get into a fight every single time I see him post and somebody says something that's even slightly controversial, which results in an easily hundred long comment thread.
He's more than willing to follow you around from thread to thread to and from community to community If he sees something on your profile he doesn't like or he disagrees with your political opinions.
If this is a Lemmy, anarchist instance, full of a bunch of super lefties, they're not gonna appreciate a Radlib coming in trying to start shit up and downvoting a bunch of people. They're probably just gonna block him like they have.
I think the recommendation here is if you're gonna downvote people, you probably want to just stick to downvoting people directly in the thread you're engaging with and not go in that person's profile and downvote every single thing they've ever done. Or claim that every single thing they've ever done is something you disagree with.
Unfortunately, he's a prolific proster, and some of his stuff is funny 🤷
And when you call him out on it, he'll make a new community to shame you for not liking him.
It's really funny that I called him out for it, he said he doesn't do it, and then make a community that got banned that's all about doing it.
I went and browsed that community and it's just full of gold.
And he claims everyone else is weird about him when he is doing shit like this.
The first one was banned by the admin, so he made a new one on .world
Hahah pifed wants none of that smoke. Man that's hilarious
I dread to think of what you consider only 'slightly controversial'.
lmao, what.
I'm literally a DemSoc, and I'm quite open about this. Sorry that I don't fit your convenient stereotype for "Bad Poster"?
They literally haven't blocked me.
If you count "disagreeing with someone without commenting" or, as accused elsewhere, "disagreeing with someone and commenting once when your name is mentioned" as "starting shit up", I question what level of disagreement you think is appropriate.
Again, as pointed out in our conversation, and, for that matter, by the admission of the person being discussed here as 'harassed', none of that is true.
But I guess backpedaling admission in order to peddle blatant falsehoods in a new comment chain is all you have at this point. You already backpedaled twice in that comment chain; gotta get a new thread out for exposure of repeating the same bullshit talking points, huh?
You don't care, of course.
SocDem is not a marxist or an anarchist.
Liberal does not count as a lefty. I'd much rather deal with anarchist comrades than liberal comrades.
Please keep posting that screenshot. If people actually read it, it does not say what you think it means.
No, I don't care. I think you should go touch grass. I think this is fucking hilarious. I think you're a whinger for having to go create your own community just to go whine about this.
Liberals can be lefties. They can't be leftists.
PJ has claimed to be both an anarchist and a liberal when we were arguing, that's why I blocked the guy, lying about his positions as a rhetorical tactic. Since I assume he's the blocked guy swinging in the comments I also assume he's now claiming to be a DemSoc, which is funny.
On the other hand, maybe he's just figuring stuff out as he goes along like everyone else :)
He could be figuring stuff out but man they are abrasive.
He gonna grind through a ton of people before he figures anything out
DemSoc. Holy fucking shit. Literally read theory.
I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or if your literacy is legitimately at that level.
This crashout is fucking legendary, I'm really enjoying the back and forth between you and the dude who talks exactly like you, bucket guy. I'm not saying your the same person or anything, it's just amazing another one of you exists!
I mean, I was getting attacked by him earlier, but it seems that Philip isn't quite the same as Pug. He'll step back occasionally and try to reach out to your better side.
PJ is basically just an attack dog.
Was reading things a little too fast, my dyslexia was getting me.
I think I've done okay so far.
What.
Chicken butt.
DemSoc is not Marxist and hasn't been since before the fall of the USSR.
No, it's just clear your comprehension isn't where it actually needs to be and you didn't read that screenshot carefully enough to see what it actually says.
I bet the whole reason you don't read Marxist theories is because you literally don't understand what they're saying.
DemSoc also just bugs me as a label, all socialism is democratic. What DemSocs should really label themselves is reformist socialists, but because they can't help but attack Marxists, they stick to cold war slander against AES by pretending reformist socialism is the only democratic form of socialism.
Oh, so the Soviet Union wasn't socialist, you agree, then? And neither is the PRC?
Nah, the PRC is democratic, and so was the USSR. Both are examples of socialism in the real world. I really don't know what you're trying to do here, I think you need to step away from the keyboard for a bit because you seem to have been here for hours now.
I think we do know what he’s trying to do, because he’s been doing it every, single, day, for the last year; though I may never understand why.
Yep, they can't seem to stop themselves from picking fights. It's like they want to justify their bans.
Fun for me to poke though
Fair enough, lol.
"Democracy is when there's one candidate approved by the government, and you can only vote for them."
Okay, fascist.
Lmao, you and I both know that isn't how democracy works in the PRC and it isn't how it worked in the Soviet Union. You should also be aware of the historical tie fascism has with anticommunism. You're just doing word salad now, please just do yourself a favor and take a break for a few days or something. You've been all over this thread.
He’s reporting you, ofc. When he doesn’t have mod power to silence people, he demands to speak with manager to do it for him.
For someone who calls people boot lickers and power trippers so often, he sure likes wielding & appealing to authority. 📽
Deeply unserious. I feel bad for them, seems they feel dogpiled on and are trying to defend themselves, but in doing so they are lashing out even at people not directly mentioning them.
"Golly gee I wonder why someone might report literal fascist bootlicking"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Soviet_Union
But I know fascists have a loose relationship with the truth.
I recommend you read Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan, an American who visited the USSR in the 30s, participated in its elections, and documented the electoral process. There's also this article that gives a brief overview of how they functioned. It even has this neat diagram:
I'm not sure what purpose you fulfill in just linking me a Wikipedia page we both know I've already read. The Wikipedia article even mentions Pat Sloan's work as a source, so it should be good reading for you.
Finally, again, fascism is a bourgeois system fundamentally reliant on private property rights over the large firms and key industries. It's capitalism using its full toolset in times of crisis to stick together. Communists are not fascists, we support collectivization of production and economic planning to better fulfil people's needs.
I again recommend stepping away from the keyboard, you're just crashing out at this point and willy-nilly calling leftists "fascists."
Excellent literacy
Reference 35 on the Wikipedia page for Soviet Democracy
It isn't the exact same Wikipedia page, to be charitable to you, but again I don't see why you immediately jump to insults rather than asking for clarification. We both know I'm a communist, we both know I've read these pages, we both know I've read beyond them. Just drop the insults, step away for a moment, and breathe. You're fine.
"It's literally not what I said, but to be charitable to you..."
Yes, very charitable to suggest that somewhere unspecified on Wikipedia your source was quoted after previously implying that it was on "The Wikipedia article" that was linked and being discussed.
The source is quoted as nothing but a contemporary account, and the entire talk page is about what an awful state the article is in. But you keep licking those literal Stalinist boots. Do they taste like the blood of Crimean Tatars, or Poles?
This you, fascist?
For the love of god, learn what fascism is already, or withdraw from the sphere of political discourse.
At what point in the past did your political consciousness become completely ossified and unimpeachable, Archie Bunker?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism
Look familiar, fascist?
Like I said, fossilized. Eco’s article and Arendt’s book are the alpha and omega of fascism—no more need be read or considered.
You're literally in the Stalin era, one day after the break of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Yet the video & articles I suggested are from the 21^st^ century.
Parenti is a hack whose scholarship is not just sloppy but outright atrocious; unsurprising, though, that you would cite a literal genocide denier as your source.
Rockhill is a fucking lunatic who thinks Zizek is a CIA plant.
As is Chomsky[1][2].
I don’t know why “genocide denial” is your go-to, because I’m sure you’d vociferously deny this one, so you know that not every such accusation is necessarily true.
Rockhill doesn’t actually say that, though neither he nor I would be surprised if he is. Plant or not, Žižek is an unserious grifter, a clown, a radical recuperator. I’m not surprised that you’d tacitly defend him; you two seem to have a lot in common. It’s a lucrative grift; maybe you should look into that.
I legitimately do feel a bit bad for you, you're getting called out on a thread here and it looks like everyone is dogpiling on you, but being this abrasive and bad-faith is only making it worse. I really don't think my point of Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan being mentioned on an adjacent page as a source is a bad thing on my part, and you're right, the Cold War has resulted in tons of blurry sources that can make it difficult to tell what's real and what isn't.
Helpfully, the Soviet archives were opened, and contemporary historians have been able to make great progress on clarifying a lot of debated topics, and Pat Sloan's account has survived that and been affirmed.
I don't really think you're mean, per se, just crashing out and lashing out. I don't take any of your insults seriously, just like I wouldn't a Flat Earther. You haven't presented any new information, and keep resorting to calling a Marxist a "fascist." It's historically and categorically false to lump Marxism in with fascism, it obscures the fundamental ties to capitalism fascism has, and the history of anticommunism in every existing fascist movement.
Again, I recommend taking a break.
"I don't think making a false claim is a bad thing on my part"
Yes, that is very apparent.
Jesus fucking Christ, have you read no scholarly works in the past thirty fucking years? The lack of Soviet democracy was overwhelmingly affirmed by internal documents, not disproven, especially in the Stalinist era. But like the Holodomor and the genocide of the Poles and Crimean Tatars, you deny that too.
"My magic word protects me"
Calling yourself a Marxist and rejecting everything Marx stood for means jack fucking shit.
I would recommend not simping for a genocidal fascist state, but we both know you won't stop that.
In normal discussions, simple mistakes like confusing the Wikipedia page for "Elections in the Soviet Union" with the page for "Soviet Democracy" merits some grace, especially because I have been exceedingly patient with you. Again, I'm only being patient with you because I understand that you feel caught out and alone, that's why you're jumping for screengrabs for the drama communities you mod while talking to 3-5 people at the same time. It isn't really a healthy thing to do.
As for the "lack of democracy," no, it's definitely been affirmed as a somewhat flawed, but working democratic system. The Soviet Union was the world's first socialist state, it broke new ground and stumbled along the way, but that doesn't make it "fascist" or those who supported it so. Same with trying to pile on a bunch of new topics to discuss, hoping one of them lands. It's desparate.
I don't see how I reject everything Marx stood for. You've admitted to not being a Marxist yourself, what makes you an authority on Marxism? My opinions are largely in line with the overwhelming majority of Marxists, I'm a Marxist-Leninist that holds a fairly standard Marxist-Leninist view.
You keep misusing the word "fascist" and genocide. You have no sources but Wikipedia links, and you've again been at this for hours. For your sake I'm disengaging here, this just isn't worth it for anyone, and I recommend you do so as well. You obviously don't care about anything I have to say, and I don't really take your insults seriously as I know they hold no water, so that's it.
The overwhelming consensus since the fall of the SovUnion by academics has been a rejection of the idea that the Soviet Union was in any way democratic even by socialist academics. But tankies online still pass around the sacred texts from 1938; they could never be wrong!
Basic fucking literacy?
This may be shocking, but the Soviet Union fell 30 years ago.
You don’t know fascism from a hole in the ground, horseshoe theorist.
Previously.
You're literally sitting here defending single-candidate elections as democratic and socialist.
What's your favorite flavor of boot polish - the one that tastes of Uyghur genocide, or the one that tastes of Ukrainian genocide?