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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 173 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There's no telling if that hasn't already happened. Europe needs to drop Microsoft ASAP.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Microsoft said this, but this likely applies to AWS and GCP too.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Check out Hetzner, a German cloud provider. Established, reliable and way cheaper than AWS.

I know migrating is nigh impossible for most large apps, but creating a new one on AWS/GCP/Azure is so shortsighted.

More people need to know about alternatives.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hetzner is really trashy though. They seem to suspend or permanently ban folks for no good reason.

https://tenforward.blog/hetzner-considered-hostile-a-psa/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32318524

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn, they really go the extra mile for a full equivalent to googles offering.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago

Right?? Like some shit doesn't have to be part of the competition..

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hetzner and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Cheap yes, reliable no.

I've been using them for my company a lot because of how cheap they are, but compared to other European competitors (like OVH) they are complete garbage. Their pricing is the only redeeming factor.

The Schwartz Group (parent company of Lidl) is currently building a German cloud platform, which sounds a lot more promising.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Lidl Web Services

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

Their storage for servers at least is stupidly expensive.

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

Color me skeptical of anything Deutsche Telekom. I'd rather look at OVH, Hetzner, and Scaleway than at something from Telekom.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

And OCI. Any US based company is subject to the CLOUD act.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 40 points 1 week ago

~~Europe~~ Everyone needs to drop Microsoft ASAP

FTFY

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Canada, too. For the last two years, Canada has entrusted sensitive statistical information to Microsoft. We should be treating MS with the same skepticism we currently reserve for Huawei.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Germany and a handful of other countries have been moving to Linux over the past decade. Betting the rate of uptick speeds up now though.