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Republican senators are growing increasingly alarmed at Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) inability to pass spending legislation over the staunch opposition of a small group of conservative rebels, and fear a government shutdown may be days away.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), who’s had to deal with the political fallout of government shutdowns in 1995-96, 2013 and 2018-19, warned Republican lawmakers on the other side of the Capitol on Tuesday that shutdowns are “a loser for Republicans, politically.”

McConnell made his comments after House Republican leaders canceled a key procedural vote on a stopgap funding measure that was scheduled for 2:30 pm Tuesday amid opposition from disgruntled conservatives.

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[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You don’t get a new one without a lot of violence.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In Australia when the government shuts down we fire the lot of them. You should do something similar.

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This I completely agree on. Should force a snap election.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You need to separate politicians from average government workers. This hurts civilians trying to do a good job more than any of these politicians.

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What exactly do you mean? And what do you think I mean?

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

A shutdown has nothing to do with elections and largely doesn't impact those elected. It just stops the everyday work government does that makes our lives nicer. The boring quiet stuff done by government workers. This isn't the same as replacing all the politicians. A shitdown would have nothing to do with firing the politicians. That requires term limits and such. When some people think of "government" they are mostly just thinking of the politicians, and they are ignoring almost the other stuff that keeps modern life running smooth. There are 2 million civilian feds who are just working a job trying pay bills and feed their families. This affects them more. It affects citizens who need access to various government services more. It delays all kinds of work on things that overall make our lives nicer in society. Shutdowns also cost everyone more money in total. It's more expensive to stop and restart the machine.

If you all are talking about also firing all government workers, then that's just asinine and childish. Arguments can be made as to whether certain parts of government are necessary or not to the level they are. But fire them all is a massive loss of institutional knowledge and disruption to things your average citizen doesn't realize makes their lives nicer every day as they rant against this vague enemy they deem "government."

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 3 points 9 months ago

As far as I am aware, a snap election in response to a government shutdown only replaces officials in elected positions.