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[–] Naatan@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I worked in Belgium not only did they pay for your transit costs, they even paid for your car, phone, and lunch. Granted the car and phone were contingent on you having a use for them for your work, but still.

This was nearly 20 years ago.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I work in belgium now. Electronics Engineer

The car is because they don't pay you shit for actual salary and a car is a huge tax cut (they budget 500 euros per month at my company). However, CoL is lower than America in most places.

They don't pay your transit costs, some jobs have "meal check" compensation so 8€ per day or so. Not bad. Only some companies give phones. Probably ad many give work phones in America.

Also there is minimal or no pension fund contribution in many/most jobs and the pension system is on the brink of collapse it seems. No Roth IRAs here or anything. Don't get paid enough to invest in anything. Everything goes into the house here because almost every single house that is affordable to people under 40 has to be stripped and fully renovated.

Also jobs are scarce right now. 2 companies hiring for PCB design stuff within 25 km of my house...

But as a whole, 32 required days of holiday by law, going to the doctor costs 4€ instead of 400, there isn't any stigma about using all of your holiday, and consumer and worker protections are very good! Plus great public transportation.

[–] Naatan@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of those problems are true in the US/Canada as well (maybe more so; eg. pension). But unlike the US/Canada you get compensated for lunch and transit. AND you get a huge amount of time off. That alone is already drastically better than what you get in the US/Canada. Sure, if you make big bucks that's mostly moot, but most people don't.